Variegated Shinglers

From: RAYMOMATTLA at cs.com on 2005.02.17 at 00:12:36(12706) I was just wondering if anyone knows of any other Aroid Shinglers with variegation or markings. I can think of... Monstera dubia Monstera tuberculata (I think there is a variegated form of this plant) +More Rhaphidophora cryptantha Scindapsus pictus Any others? Michael _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Jonathan Ertelt jonathan.ertelt at vanderbilt.edu> on 2005.02.17 at 15:14:05(12710) Title: Re: [Aroid-l] Variegated Shinglers I was just wondering if anyone knows of any other Aroid Shinglers with variegation or markings. I can think of... Monstera dubia Monstera tuberculata (I think there is a variegated form of this plant) Rhaphidophora cryptantha Scindapsus pictus Michael, Is Raphiidophora cryptantha the name that has been given to the shingler species that Craig Allen had climbing up the wall in the tropical house at Fairchild? I remember at the time that plant was first brought up getting into that debate and pointing out that it could not be called the juvenile form of a plant if it was indeed flowering underneath those shingled leaves (which it was). It took a bit of convincing, but then I didn't hear anything more. That name would certainly make sense for this plant. However, if that is not its name, and relatively new, then there is that Rapidophora species also to add to your list. Jonathan +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "michael mahan" agavestar at covad.net> on 2005.02.18 at 09:46:17(12717) Please excuse me for asking a dumb question but what is a philo SHINGLERS ?? is that a philo that has the leaves arranged shingle style as in a roof .one laying over the next ?? Mike +More -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of RAYMOMATTLA@cs.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:13 PM To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] Variegated Shinglers I was just wondering if anyone knows of any other Aroid Shinglers with variegation or markings. I can think of... Monstera dubia Monstera tuberculata (I think there is a variegated form of this plant) Rhaphidophora cryptantha Scindapsus pictus Any others? Michael _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Jonathan Ertelt jonathan.ertelt at vanderbilt.edu> on 2005.02.20 at 18:46:56(12719) Title: RE: [Aroid-l] Variegated Shinglers At 1:46 AM -0800 2/18/05, michael mahan wrote: +More Please excuse me for asking a dumb question but what is a philo SHINGLERS ?? is that a philo that has the leaves arranged shingle style as in a roof .one laying over the next ?? Mike Indeed Michael, that is exactly what it is like. Neither of the following shots really give a good sense of the shingling nature some of these plants provide, generally with juvenile leaves, but they're the best that I could find, and can't provide my own shots until I've got a scanner for slides. I don't know of any Philodendron species which have this habit so pronounced, but certainly the species mentioned in the original post, as well as several other Monstera and Raphidophora species show this phenomenon with their early growth. The mature leaves generally look entirely different, although the shingle leaves on one Raphidophora species are the mature leaves. http://www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/botanytextbooks/lifeforms/climbingplants/a0655tx.html http://www.botgard.ucla.edu/html/botanytextbooks/lifeforms/epiphytes/a1143tx.html Jonathan p.s. Not a dumb question - none of us know everything that we'd like to know - luckily, we can be in a community where knowlegde is willingly shared. _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: RAYMOMATTLA at cs.com on 2005.02.20 at 22:44:23(12720) Mike, Right, youv'e got the idea. Shingling plants have leaves appressed to the surface on which they climb. Rhaphidophora, Monstera, Pothos, Culcasia, etc. are examples of genera with shingling habit. Not sure if Philodendron has any species that are true shinglers though, (I guess P. hederaceum?) Michael +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Eduardo Goncalves" edggon at hotmail.com> on 2005.02.23 at 17:03:00(12724) Aroiders, As far as I remember, young Philodendron melanochrysum (syn. P. andraeanum) and young P. ornatum are true shinglers. Best wishes, Eduardo. +More Dr. Eduardo G. Goncalves Universidade Catolica de Brasilia Curso de Ciencias Biologicas Sala M-206, QS 7, Lote 1, EPTC CEP 72030-170, Taguatinga ? DF, BRAZIL. Reply-To: Discussion of aroids To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Variegated Shinglers Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:44:23 EST Mike, Right, youv'e got the idea. Shingling plants have leaves appressed to the surface on which they climb. Rhaphidophora, Monstera, Pothos, Culcasia, etc. are examples of genera with shingling habit. Not sure if Philodendron has any species that are true shinglers though, (I guess P. hederaceum?) Michael _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger: instale gr?tis e converse com seus amigos. http://messenger.msn.com.br _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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