titanum corm storage

From: "Temmerman" <temmerm at skynet.be> on 2004.08.06 at 15:14:57(11931) Hi, I just happened to see on ebay that somebody is offering a titanum corm. But it is stored dry, and the seller advises that too. Now, Indonesia is on the equator, so it rains there all year round I'd say. I also think I read several times that they cannot be stored dry. Can anybody tell me the facts? Thanks and have a nice day. Regards, Michael

From: "Michael Marcotrigiano" <mmarcotr at email.smith.edu> on 2004.08.06 at 17:23:21(11934) I saw that listing and it looks like something to avoid. Maybe it's dead? Who would bid on a dormant shriveled corm of anything from a total stranger. You can buy a t.c. titanum that is green and alive - why risk this. And the info they provide is shaky. +More _______________________________ Michael Marcotrigiano, Ph.D Director of the Botanic Garden and Professor of Biological Sciences Smith College Lyman Conservatory, 15 College Lane Northampton, MA 01063 email: mmarcotr@smith.edu voice: 413-585-2741; fax: 413-585-2744 www.smith.edu/garden www.science.smith.edu/~mmarcotr ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Art is the unceasing effort to compete with the beauty of flowers and never succeeding." Marc Chagall >>> temmerm@skynet.be 08/06/04 11:14AM >>> Hi, I just happened to see on ebay that somebody is offering a titanum corm. But it is stored dry, and the seller advises that too. Now, Indonesia is on the equator, so it rains there all year round I'd say. I also think I read several times that they cannot be stored dry. Can anybody tell me the facts? Thanks and have a nice day. Regards, Michael

From: "Temmerman" <temmerm at skynet.be> on 2004.08.07 at 05:49:47(11939) Hi, Thanks for your reply. However, Sumatra, Java and Borneo are one of the most tropical islands there are. They have rain all year round, daily. That would make me think that titanum cannot be stored dry and that on ebay, people are going to buy a dead bulb. The picture of the auctioned bulb looks quite dry already, although that is no absolute guaranty to know that it is dead. +More Regards, Michael

From: "Peter Boyce" <peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2004.08.07 at 10:25:46(11940) Hi Michael I agree 100% on the wet tropics comment. All of the Bornean species from per-humid foerst detest drying out; nothing kills them more quickly. Peter +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] titanum corm storage > Hi, > > Thanks for your reply. However, Sumatra, Java and Borneo are one of the > most tropical islands there are. They have rain all year round, daily. > That would make me think that titanum cannot be stored dry and that on ebay, > people are going to buy a dead bulb. The picture of the auctioned bulb > looks quite dry already, although that is no absolute guaranty to know that > it is dead. > > Regards, > Michael > > > [ Scanned by JARING E-Mail Virus Scanner ( http://www.jaring.my ) ] >

From: LMassey628 at aol.com on 2004.08.07 at 16:38:13(11941) In a message dated 8/7/2004 12:36:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, peterboyce@myjaring.net writes: Hi Michael +More I agree 100% on the wet tropics comment. All of the Bornean species from per-humid foerst detest drying out; nothing kills them more quickly. Peter Which other species are "Bornean species" please ? Linda

From: <plantguy at zoominternet.net> on 2004.08.07 at 17:06:17(11942) Hi Peter, Perhaps a few comments on how to store these would be appreciated by several of us here who have not grown these Bornean species previously. Do you leave them in their standard potting mix and occasionally water even when dormant?? Do you allow the potting mix to dry or do you water as soon as it is barely moist?? Any help is greatly appreciated!! Dan Devor +More Gibsonia, PA USA ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] titanum corm storage > Hi Michael > > I agree 100% on the wet tropics comment. All of the Bornean species from > per-humid foerst detest drying out; nothing kills them more quickly. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Temmerman" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 1:49 PM > Subject: Re: [aroid-l] titanum corm storage > > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for your reply. However, Sumatra, Java and Borneo are one of the > > most tropical islands there are. They have rain all year round, daily. > > That would make me think that titanum cannot be stored dry and that on > ebay, > > people are going to buy a dead bulb. The picture of the auctioned bulb > > looks quite dry already, although that is no absolute guaranty to know > that > > it is dead. > > > > Regards, > > Michael > > > > > > [ Scanned by JARING E-Mail Virus Scanner ( http://www.jaring.my ) ] > > > > > >

From: "Peter Boyce" <peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2004.08.08 at 22:01:06(11946) Hi Linda With the recognition of Amorphophallus julaihii as a new species there are fifteen indigenous described species of Amorphophallus recorded from Borneo. Including A. julaihii there are eight species in Sarawak, viz: A. angulatus Hett. & A.Vogel, A. brachyphyllus Hett., A. eburneus Bogner, A. hewittii Alderw., A. hottae Bogner & Hett., A. infundibuliformis Hett., A Dearden & A. Vogel, A. pendulus Bogner & Mayo. Five species have been recorded from Sabah: A. hottae, A. lambii Mayo & Widjaja, A. rugosus Hett. & A. Lamb., A. tinekeae Hett. & A. Vogel and A. venustus Hett., A. Hay & J. Mood. There are so far eight species recorded from Kalimantan: A. borneensis, A. costatus Hett., A. hewittii, A. infundibuliformis, A. lambii, A. linguiformis, A. pendulus and A. prainii (the last perhaps based on a mis-labelled specimen; A. prainii is otherwise known only from West Malaysia and Sumatera). With the exception of this possibly dubious A. prainii all Bornean Amorphophallus are endemic to Borneo. The most remarkable aspect of these data is that thirteen of these fifteen species have been described within the past 25 years. Pete +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] titanum corm storage > In a message dated 8/7/2004 12:36:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, > peterboyce@myjaring.net writes: > Hi Michael > > I agree 100% on the wet tropics comment. All of the Bornean species from > per-humid foerst detest drying out; nothing kills them more quickly. > > Peter > Which other species are "Bornean species" please ? > > Linda > > [ Scanned by JARING E-Mail Virus Scanner ( http://www.jaring.my ) ] >

From: "Peter Boyce" <peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2004.08.08 at 23:06:36(11947) Hi Dan We gow all our Bornean Amorphs in a 1:1:1 coconut peat (granular, non-composted): washed river sand: crushed charcoal (2 cm max) mix in plastic pots in a shade house not protected from theb rain. Watering is by rotating sprinkler (20 litres/min per sprinker head) and they are fed 10:10:10 + microelements one a week. The plants are never allowed to dry out although we cut back slightly on watering when they are dormant. However, in our experience they are never dormant for long (max. 4 weeks) and very frequently are thowing a new leaf even before the old leaf is showing signs of senescence. Some of the species such as A. angulatus and A. pendulus produce up to 5 new leaves a year. If all this sounds too good to be true it's important to remember that the temperatures here are pretty constant year-round (min. 22 C (71 F), max. 35 C (95 F)) and that the nursery receives c. 5 m rain per annum. In addition being nearly on the equator are daylight/night darkness is 12:12 per 24 hour cycle; thus the plants don't experience long periods of cold, grey long-darkness winter days when the day time air temperature is kept at the bare nighttime minimum. Under these conditions the plants would need to be grown drier but even then I'd not recommend drying out any of the Amorphs from ever-wet habitats. Very best wishes Pete +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] titanum corm storage > Hi Peter, > > Perhaps a few comments on how to store these would be appreciated by several > of us here who have not grown these Bornean species previously. Do you > leave them in their standard potting mix and occasionally water even when > dormant?? Do you allow the potting mix to dry or do you water as soon as it > is barely moist?? Any help is greatly appreciated!! > > Dan Devor > Gibsonia, PA > USA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Boyce" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 6:25 AM > Subject: Re: [aroid-l] titanum corm storage > > > > Hi Michael > > > > I agree 100% on the wet tropics comment. All of the Bornean species from > > per-humid foerst detest drying out; nothing kills them more quickly. > > > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Temmerman" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 1:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [aroid-l] titanum corm storage > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. However, Sumatra, Java and Borneo are one of the > > > most tropical islands there are. They have rain all year round, daily. > > > That would make me think that titanum cannot be stored dry and that on > > ebay, > > > people are going to buy a dead bulb. The picture of the auctioned bulb > > > looks quite dry already, although that is no absolute guaranty to know > > that > > > it is dead. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > [ Scanned by JARING E-Mail Virus Scanner ( http://www.jaring.my ) ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ Scanned by JARING E-Mail Virus Scanner ( http://www.jaring.my ) ] >

From: LMassey628 at aol.com on 2004.08.09 at 02:17:07(11948) In a message dated 8/8/2004 9:28:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, peterboyce@myjaring.net writes: Hi Linda +More With the recognition of Amorphophallus julaihii as a new species there are fifteen indigenous described species of Amorphophallus recorded from Borneo. Thanks very; much Peter. Linda

From: Wrig14 at aol.com on 2004.08.09 at 17:03:10(11950) Linda, could you share your research material for us all. Joe

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