Anthuriums from Ecuador

From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2004.03.16 at 23:38:12(11280) Hi All, Can anyone (particularly Tom Croat or Lynn Hannon if they are reading this) help with some IDs for three Anthurium species? They were purchased from Ecuagenera at a show in London and only two were labelled with possible species names. If you go to: www.members.aol.com/dgiscience/Anthuriums.html you will see the three species concerned (you MUST spell Anthurium with an uppercase A, the site is case sensitive). On the left is a species which would seem close to A. lentii or A.ovatifolium, it was labelled as A.grubii, a name I cannot trace. The leaves are about six inches in length, very thick and leathery and glossy on both surfaces, but could well be young leaves. In the centre is a species they labelled as A. variegatum, a good species name but one which I do not have a description of, I fail to see what is variegated if it IS this species! The petioles are strikingly red. The leaves are about ten inches in length. On the right is an unnamed species which I at first thought was A.panduriforme but the leaves are more slender and the leaf surface is satiny-shimmering rather than glossy. The leaves are about ten inches in length. It looks similar also to A.dragonopterum but the veins seem much further apart. Any suggestions much appreciated! Thanks, Geoffrey Kibby +More London

From: Aroideae at aol.com on 2004.03.17 at 00:48:51(11281) hi geoffrey, nice to hear from you, even indirectly. tom is in europe and might not be on-line till he returns, so i'll do my best. A. grubii (think it might be 2 "b's") is a new species from the amazon side of the Andes in Ecuador. no doubt tom IDd this for pepe while he was at ecuagenera. you might find it on Tropicos.....http://mobot.mobot.org/W3T/Search/vast.html A. variegatum gets its name from the juvenile leaves which i'm told are variegated. i've not seen the juveniles. i'm sorry, but i have no idea what the 3rd plant is. best, lynn +More Hi All, Can anyone (particularly Tom Croat or Lynn Hannon if they are reading this) help with some IDs for three Anthurium species? They were purchased from Ecuagenera at a show in London and only two were labelled with possible species names. If you go to: www.members.aol.com/dgiscience/Anthuriums.html you will see the three species concerned (you MUST spell Anthurium with an uppercase A, the site is case sensitive). On the left is a species which would seem close to A. lentii or A.ovatifolium, it was labelled as A.grubii, a name I cannot trace. The leaves are about six inches in length, very thick and leathery and glossy on both surfaces, but could well be young leaves. In the centre is a species they labelled as A. variegatum, a good species name but one which I do not have a description of, I fail to see what is variegated if it IS this species! The petioles are strikingly red. The leaves are about ten inches in length. On the right is an unnamed species which I at first thought was A.panduriforme but the leaves are more slender and the leaf surface is satiny-shimmering rather than glossy. The leaves are about ten inches in length. It looks similar also to A.dragonopterum but the veins seem much further apart. Any suggestions much appreciated! Thanks, Geoffrey Kibby London

From: Dan Levin <levin at pixar.com> on 2004.03.17 at 01:42:12(11283) Geoffrey, If I may offer a few comments about your Anthurium plants; I have been growing 2 of the very same beasts in my small greenhouse (plus many more plants from Ecuagenera) for a year or so. Here's what to possibly expect: The first species (A. grubii) will easily exceed 1 m. in height, with the leaves & petioles each contributing equally. It is a gregarious grower for me and seems happy as a terrestrial. As an adult the thick, stiff leaves are carried strictly upright atop massive petioles; no bending or flopping as in your picture! My plant seems to be ever blooming. The rather large spathes are greenish tinged with red, with faint darker green longitudinal stripes; held perpendicularly to the spadix or slightly reflexed. Inflorescences reach to the leaf bases or just below. Spadices are golden in color changing to red prior to anthesis (hmm, have I got that backwards?); the spadix is quite large (6" +) and when in its gold phase, is reminiscent of an ear of baby corn. --- +More The third plant is a bit more of a climber/ rambler. It's a much slower grower for me, but the leaves are easily 16" long and at least that dimension measured width-wise across the basal lobes. Though the basal lobes do bend forward slightly, the much skinnier pendant apex is quite planar and flat with a stunning velour like sheen. The mid-rib and collecting veins are vaguely metallic white. Spathe & spadix are both light green, long and whip-like; my plant has just put out its first inflorescence... and I'm hoping to now cross it with my big warocqueanum (hey, I can hope!). Michael Riley told me this plant was originally collected by in Tingo Maria, by the way. All best, -Dan

From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2004.03.17 at 07:58:02(11287) Many thanks to Lynn (nice to hear from you too Lynn, I havent't been active on the List for a while, too many other things taking up growing time!) and to Dan for their very helpful and comprehensive replies - exciting stuff! I have done very well with plants from Ecuagenera and have a number of beautiful Anthuriums from them which I hope will go on to set seed in the future which I will do my best to distribute. By the way: some years ago I distributed a large number of berries/seeds of Anthurium trinerve to many of the members of this List. If anyone grew these on successfully and have seeds in return I would be very grateful, I have managed to kill off my parent plant (one of my very few Anthurium fatalities...) and of course did not grow on any seedlings of my own.... My new address is given below. +More Best wishes, Geoffrey Kibby 59 Southway Raynes Park London SW20 9JG

From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2004.03.17 at 21:37:46(11291) My thanks to Michael Riley and others who have given such detailed info on my mystery Anthuriums, the third species in particular, with basal lobes and velvety leaves is - as they said - incredibly beautiful. Another plant I picked up from Ecuagenera was Anthurium marmoratum, a species I have wanted to acquire for years. When mature it is superb and equal in my view to A. waroqueanum and surprisingly ignored in the literature. Perhaps it is difficult to grow? I have placed a pic of a mature A. marmoratum I photographed in Stockholm, Sweden on my site at: for anyone who wishes to admire. +More Cheers, Geoffrey Kibby

From: David Thornton <dave at dave-aroid.demon.co.uk> on 2004.03.17 at 22:14:42(11292) In message <133.2c83c6f0.2d8a1f2a@aol.com>, GeoffAroid@aol.com writes Dear Geoffrey, Does ecuagenera have a web site ? I wouldn't mind some exotic aroids too. Dave +More >My thanks to Michael Riley and others who have given such detailed info on my >mystery Anthuriums, the third species in particular, with basal lobes and >velvety leaves is - as they said - incredibly beautiful. Another plant I picked >up from Ecuagenera was Anthurium marmoratum, a species I have wanted to acquire >for years. When mature it is superb and equal in my view to A. waroqueanum >and surprisingly ignored in the literature. Perhaps it is difficult to grow? I >have placed a pic of a mature A. marmoratum I photographed in Stockholm, Sweden >on my site at: for anyone who >wishes to admire. > >Cheers, >Geoffrey Kibby -- David Thornton Manchester (u.k) zone 8b Homepage http://www.dave-aroid.demon.co.uk

From: "Michael Pascall" <mickpascall at hotmail.com> on 2004.03.18 at 02:58:57(11293) Tom Croat has written a fantastic article about his last trip to Ecuador , and it is the feature story in the next Newsletter of the Int. Aroid Soc. so you may very well find out the name of that mystery Anthurium as Tom has many pictures taken in habitat. Michael Pascall, +More _________________________________________________________________ SEEK: Now with over 50,000 dream jobs! Click here: http://ninemsn.seek.com.au?hotmail

From: "Tropical Plant Resource" <Tropicals at SolutionsAnalysis.net> on 2004.03.18 at 12:13:27(11295) Geoffrey: Thank you for sharing. I concur, albeit just a photograph, you are rivaling the beauty of A. waroqueanum. Christian +More -----Original Message----- Behalf Of GeoffAroid@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:38 PM To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Anthuriums from Ecuador My thanks to Michael Riley and others who have given such detailed info on my mystery Anthuriums, the third species in particular, with basal lobes and velvety leaves is - as they said - incredibly beautiful. Another plant I picked up from Ecuagenera was Anthurium marmoratum, a species I have wanted to acquire for years. When mature it is superb and equal in my view to A. waroqueanum and surprisingly ignored in the literature. Perhaps it is difficult to grow? I have placed a pic of a mature A. marmoratum I photographed in Stockholm, Sweden on my site at: for anyone who wishes to admire. Cheers, Geoffrey Kibby

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