A. spruceanum

From: Rand Nicholson writserv at nbnet.nb.ca> on 2004.01.28 at 18:49:27(11041) Hello All: My A. spruceanum, which I received with Wilbert's last shipment (thank you Wilbert), seems to be developing a tuber on the leaf just like A. bulbifer. Is this common? Rand Nicholson +More Maritime Canada z 5b

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid (prive)" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2004.01.30 at 04:32:02(11042) Hi Rand, This is a bit of a puzzling message: if A. stands for Amorphophallus, then there's something wrong with the name because Amorphophallus spruceanum doesn't exist. I did also send Dracontium spruceanum to some of you but that's hardly an Amorph and Dracontiums do NOT make foliar bulbils, although they DO develop swollen joints in the leaves to some degree. Cheerio, Wilbert +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu > [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]Namens Rand Nicholson > Verzonden: woensdag 28 januari 2004 19:49 > Aan: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > Onderwerp: [aroid-l] A. spruceanum > > > Hello All: > > My A. spruceanum, which I received with Wilbert's last > shipment (thank you Wilbert), seems to be developing a tuber > on the leaf just like A. bulbifer. Is this common? > > Rand Nicholson > Maritime Canada z 5b

From: Rand Nicholson writserv at nbnet.nb.ca> on 2004.01.30 at 13:30:03(11046) Hello Wilbert: No real puzzle. Obviously, in a highly excitable state of phalloid enthusiasm after receiving my shipment, I mislabeled Dracontium spruceanum as Amorphophallus spruceanum. Wishful thinking or duh? I suppose this is how some of those ugly taxonomic rumors get started. However, D. spruceanum _does_ look almost exactly like A. spruceanum (which, of course, does not exist) to my layman's eye. And, a rather large not-a-bulbil is developing on top of the leaf petiole. Do these eventually ever _do_ anything, or are they just arthritic wannabees? That clears that up. Thanks, and drop over for a beer some time you are in the country. Rand +More Eastern Maritime Canada z 5b (& -16 C.) >Hi Rand, > >This is a bit of a puzzling message: if A. stands for Amorphophallus, then >there's something wrong with the name because Amorphophallus spruceanum >doesn't exist. I did also send Dracontium spruceanum to some of you but >that's hardly an Amorph and Dracontiums do NOT make foliar bulbils, although >they DO develop swollen joints in the leaves to some degree. > >Cheerio, >Wilbert

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid (prive)" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2004.01.30 at 16:56:13(11047) Hi Rand, There IS of course always a slim chance that somebody in Leiden shipped you a real Amorph instead of the Dracontium and, oh wonder, a bulbil-forming species (like Am. bulbifer or Am. muelleri)................ Wilbert +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu > [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]Namens Rand Nicholson > Verzonden: vrijdag 30 januari 2004 14:30 > Aan: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > Onderwerp: Re: [aroid-l] A. spruceanum > > > Hello Wilbert: > > No real puzzle. > > Obviously, in a highly excitable state of phalloid enthusiasm > after receiving my shipment, I mislabeled Dracontium > spruceanum as Amorphophallus spruceanum. Wishful thinking or > duh? I suppose this is how some of those ugly taxonomic > rumors get started. However, D. spruceanum _does_ look almost > exactly like A. spruceanum (which, of course, does not exist) > to my layman's eye. And, a rather large not-a-bulbil is > developing on top of the leaf petiole. Do these eventually > ever _do_ anything, or are they just arthritic wannabees? > > That clears that up. > > Thanks, and drop over for a beer some time you are in the country. > > Rand > Eastern Maritime Canada z 5b (& -16 C.) > > > > >Hi Rand, > > > >This is a bit of a puzzling message: if A. stands for > Amorphophallus, then > >there's something wrong with the name because Amorphophallus > spruceanum > >doesn't exist. I did also send Dracontium spruceanum to some > of you but > >that's hardly an Amorph and Dracontiums do NOT make foliar > bulbils, although > >they DO develop swollen joints in the leaves to some degree. > > > >Cheerio, > >Wilbert

From: piaba piabinha at yahoo.com> on 2004.01.30 at 18:22:25(11048) > D. spruceanum _does_ look almost exactly like A. > spruceanum (which, of course, does not exist) to my > layman's eye. +More there is an Anthurium spruceanum, no? of course you can't confuse an anthurium with an amorph. (otherwise, lord p. will have a heart attack)... tsuh yang __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

From: "Peter Boyce" peterboyce at myjaring.net> on 2004.01.31 at 00:55:20(11049) ...there's also a Monstera spruceanum; heart palpitations up 'n' running at the thought og a vining 'phalloid Lord P? Pete +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] A. spruceanum > > D. spruceanum _does_ look almost exactly like A. > > spruceanum (which, of course, does not exist) to my > > layman's eye. > > there is an Anthurium spruceanum, no? of course you > can't confuse an anthurium with an amorph. (otherwise, > lord p. will have a heart attack)... > > > tsuh yang > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

From: Rand Nicholson writserv at nbnet.nb.ca> on 2004.01.31 at 04:06:17(11051) Wilbert Et Al: Ok. I'll go with the A. muelleri since I already have A. bulbifer. Now, who's dreaming ... although it does seem odd that the Drac. would go to all this trouble just to make something round and useless. TFIC Rand +More >Hi Rand, > >There IS of course always a slim chance that somebody in Leiden shipped you >a real Amorph instead of the Dracontium and, oh wonder, a bulbil-forming >species (like Am. bulbifer or Am. muelleri)................ > >Wilbert

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid (prive)" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2004.01.31 at 05:40:02(11052) Well, there are also fully creeping rhizomatous phalloids, so why not a climbing one........AAARRGGHH!!!!!!!!! Lord P +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu > [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]Namens Peter Boyce > Verzonden: zaterdag 31 januari 2004 1:55 > Aan: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > Onderwerp: Re: [aroid-l] A. spruceanum > > > > ...there's also a Monstera spruceanum; heart palpitations up > 'n' running at > the thought og a vining 'phalloid Lord P? > > Pete > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "piaba" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:22 AM > Subject: Re: [aroid-l] A. spruceanum > > > > > D. spruceanum _does_ look almost exactly like A. > > > spruceanum (which, of course, does not exist) to my > > > layman's eye. > > > > there is an Anthurium spruceanum, no? of course you > > can't confuse an anthurium with an amorph. (otherwise, > > lord p. will have a heart attack)... > > > > > > tsuh yang > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ >

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid (prive)" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2004.01.31 at 05:42:31(11053) Rand, You can make life easier on all of us by mailing me a scan of the leaf and I'll put us out of our mysery. Lord P +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu > [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]Namens Rand Nicholson > Verzonden: zaterdag 31 januari 2004 5:06 > Aan: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > Onderwerp: Re: [aroid-l] A. spruceanum > > > Wilbert Et Al: > > Ok. I'll go with the A. muelleri since I already have A. > bulbifer. Now, who's dreaming ... although it does seem odd > that the Drac. would go to all this trouble just to make > something round and useless. > > TFIC > > Rand > > > > >Hi Rand, > > > >There IS of course always a slim chance that somebody in > Leiden shipped you > >a real Amorph instead of the Dracontium and, oh wonder, a > bulbil-forming > >species (like Am. bulbifer or Am. muelleri)................ > > > >Wilbert

From: Rand Nicholson writserv at nbnet.nb.ca> on 2004.01.31 at 13:12:52(11054) Lord P. And Interested Parties: >You can make life easier on all of us by mailing me a scan of the leaf and >I'll put us out of our mysery. > >Lord P +More Sounds like a plan. Please keep in mind that this is just a little fella, coming up from a tuber that was, upon planting, only the size of one's pinky tip. Am I permitted to wait until the creature in question completes its present growth cycle, or is the pressure such that I must immediately uproot the unnamed offender and hurl it forthwith into the photonic maw of The Evil Lexmark? Would a portion of the leaf suffice? Any advice on how one scans an purported Amorph/Drac leaf without also scanning a big, juicy smear? I do not know how much my very patient Carol (who has had an unprepared and unfortunate introduction to a full-blown Am. konjac in all its magnifi-scent glory in our living room one unscheduled morning) will appreciate me smooshing a disputed plant under the scanner, even for a lofty scientific principle. She may point out that she _has_ already identified the plant by the company it keeps and wonder why Aroid-L is not shut down on decency issues (thanx for all the gallery links, guys!). Please, M'Lord, let us know soonest when you first describe Am. creepatoid. Rand

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid (prive)" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2004.01.31 at 19:56:56(11055) And Lord P says: I didn't mean a scan as in scanning the object itself but as in a scanned photo (or a direct digital pic)! That should ease your mind. No need to upset the lil' fella itself. Lord P +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu > [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]Namens Rand Nicholson > Verzonden: zaterdag 31 januari 2004 14:13 > Aan: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > Onderwerp: Re: [aroid-l] A. spruceanum > > > Lord P. And Interested Parties: > > >You can make life easier on all of us by mailing me a scan > of the leaf and > >I'll put us out of our mysery. > > > >Lord P > > Sounds like a plan. > > Please keep in mind that this is just a little fella, coming > up from a tuber that was, upon planting, only the size of > one's pinky tip. Am I permitted to wait until the creature in > question completes its present growth cycle, or is the > pressure such that I must immediately uproot the unnamed > offender and hurl it forthwith into the photonic maw of The > Evil Lexmark? Would a portion of the leaf suffice? Any advice > on how one scans an purported Amorph/Drac leaf without also > scanning a big, juicy smear? > > I do not know how much my very patient Carol (who has had an > unprepared and unfortunate introduction to a full-blown Am. > konjac in all its magnifi-scent glory in our living room one > unscheduled morning) will appreciate me smooshing a disputed > plant under the scanner, even for a lofty scientific > principle. She may point out that she _has_ already > identified the plant by the company it keeps and wonder why > Aroid-L is not shut down on decency issues (thanx for all the > gallery links, guys!). > > Please, M'Lord, let us know soonest when you first describe > Am. creepatoid. > > > Rand > > >

From: "ron iles" roniles at eircom.net> on 2004.01.31 at 20:51:42(11056) Randy For a simple English soul who does not understand colloquial Yank please what are "one's pinky tip" & "the photonic maw of The Evil Lexmark"? Please send my condolences to the pinky tip keeper's patient keeper especially if she has to watch you smoosh the funny little creepaloid. Phil O'Dendron P.S. Make Amorpho spruceanum smoking legal.

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