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Spathiphyllum 'Alfa'
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From: Pieter Colpaert pieter_cactus at yahoo.co.uk> on 2003.11.14 at 08:25:00(10800)
Hello,
I'm new on this group. I am Pieter Colpaert from Belgium and I'm a
master student in bio-engineering.
For my thesis, I am working on the genetics for flower induction of
Spathiphyllum cv. 'Alfa'. And I am still looking for some additional
information on this plant to use in the introduction.
I do know that this is a hybrid between Spathiphyllum cv. 'Daniel' and
Spathiphyllum cv. 'Pallas'. But does someone here know what botanical
species these cultivars are made of? I think S. floribundum and S.
wallisii are among the ancestors. Am I correct? Or are there still
others involved?
Thanks,
Pieter
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Avelgem, Belgium
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http://studwww.UGent.be/~pcolpaer/
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From: Thomas.Croat at mobot.org on 2003.11.14 at 20:02:07(10801)
Peter: I suggest that you contact Ron Iles at roniles@eircom.net or Jake
Henny at RJHENNY@mail.ifas.ufl.edu They are the only ones likely to know
this taxon.
Tom
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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:25 AM
To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu
Subject: [aroid-l] Spathiphyllum 'Alfa'
Hello,
I'm new on this group. I am Pieter Colpaert from Belgium and I'm a
master student in bio-engineering.
For my thesis, I am working on the genetics for flower induction of
Spathiphyllum cv. 'Alfa'. And I am still looking for some additional
information on this plant to use in the introduction.
I do know that this is a hybrid between Spathiphyllum cv. 'Daniel' and
Spathiphyllum cv. 'Pallas'. But does someone here know what botanical
species these cultivars are made of? I think S. floribundum and S.
wallisii are among the ancestors. Am I correct? Or are there still
others involved?
Thanks,
Pieter
=====
Pieter Colpaert
Avelgem, Belgium
pieter_cactus@yahoo.co.uk
http://studwww.UGent.be/~pcolpaer/
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From: "ron iles" roniles at eircom.net> on 2003.11.14 at 23:45:49(10804)
Hi Pieter!
Wouldn't it be good to know the parentages (pedigrees!!!!) of all these
wonderful modern Spathiphyllum hybrids? I hope to respond in serious fun
this week. You are in EUROPE. So have you living accommodation for >fifty
of the 45 or so Spathiphyllum "species"?
Cheers
Ron
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----- Original Message -----
To:
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Spathiphyllum 'Alfa'
> Peter: I suggest that you contact Ron Iles at roniles@eircom.net or Jake
> Henny at RJHENNY@mail.ifas.ufl.edu They are the only ones likely to know
> this taxon.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pieter Colpaert [mailto:pieter_cactus@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:25 AM
> To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu
> Subject: [aroid-l] Spathiphyllum 'Alfa'
>
>
> Hello,
> I'm new on this group. I am Pieter Colpaert from Belgium and I'm a
> master student in bio-engineering.
> For my thesis, I am working on the genetics for flower induction of
> Spathiphyllum cv. 'Alfa'. And I am still looking for some additional
> information on this plant to use in the introduction.
> I do know that this is a hybrid between Spathiphyllum cv. 'Daniel' and
> Spathiphyllum cv. 'Pallas'. But does someone here know what botanical
> species these cultivars are made of? I think S. floribundum and S.
> wallisii are among the ancestors. Am I correct? Or are there still
> others involved?
> Thanks,
> Pieter
>
> =====
> Pieter Colpaert
> Avelgem, Belgium
> pieter_cactus@yahoo.co.uk
> http://studwww.UGent.be/~pcolpaer/
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!
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From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid (prive)" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2003.11.15 at 06:16:23(10808)
May I add my 2 cents of scepticism in matters of cultivar parentage........
I think the quest for parentage in modern cultivars in hybrid complexes is a
futile excercise. Most of this kind of knowledge is part of the industrial
secret of companies who produce these CULTA, NOT TAXA, TOM CROAT!!........
:-), or did you forget my presentation in St. Louis some 7 years
ago...........?
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It will always be speculation as to what parentage is involved, unless e.g.
DNA-methods would unequivocally answer this question. But hybridisation also
brings perturbation of the genome and this may well blur the issue
definitively. Also, when older litarature on hybridisation is available, one
must always question to the correct use of names of parental species to the
point that species mentioned were often not even species themselves to begin
with (quite some Linnean species names do actually represent ancient
cultivars and are never found in the wild).
So, Ron and others, what is the drive behind this parentage quest? Pure
human inquisitiveness? Or does it have a purpose?
Cheerio,
Lord P.
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu
> [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]Namens ron iles
> Verzonden: zaterdag 15 november 2003 0:46
> Aan: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu
> Onderwerp: Re: [aroid-l] Spathiphyllum 'Alfa'
>
>
> Hi Pieter!
>
> Wouldn't it be good to know the parentages (pedigrees!!!!) of
> all these
> wonderful modern Spathiphyllum hybrids? I hope to respond in
> serious fun
> this week. You are in EUROPE. So have you living
> accommodation for >fifty
> of the 45 or so Spathiphyllum "species"?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Spathiphyllum 'Alfa'
>
>
> > Peter: I suggest that you contact Ron Iles at
> roniles@eircom.net or Jake
> > Henny at RJHENNY@mail.ifas.ufl.edu They are the only ones
> likely to know
> > this taxon.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pieter Colpaert [mailto:pieter_cactus@yahoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:25 AM
> > To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu
> > Subject: [aroid-l] Spathiphyllum 'Alfa'
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> > I'm new on this group. I am Pieter Colpaert from Belgium and I'm a
> > master student in bio-engineering.
> > For my thesis, I am working on the genetics for flower induction of
> > Spathiphyllum cv. 'Alfa'. And I am still looking for some additional
> > information on this plant to use in the introduction.
> > I do know that this is a hybrid between Spathiphyllum cv.
> 'Daniel' and
> > Spathiphyllum cv. 'Pallas'. But does someone here know what
> botanical
> > species these cultivars are made of? I think S. floribundum and S.
> > wallisii are among the ancestors. Am I correct? Or are there still
> > others involved?
> > Thanks,
> > Pieter
> >
> > =====
> > Pieter Colpaert
> > Avelgem, Belgium
> > pieter_cactus@yahoo.co.uk
> > http://studwww.UGent.be/~pcolpaer/
> >
> >
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
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> FREE Yahoo!
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>
>
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From: "Dany Hervelle" bs246466 at skynet.be> on 2003.11.16 at 08:00:10(10813)
Hi Ron and friends
About your collection of spath,maybe Genevieve Ferry,from the nancy bot
garden,in France could be interesting to grow them...hey have there an
interesant aroid collection and i know that she ,who is responsible of the
aroid collection,grow them with both love and serious.If they can go
there,i am sure they will be fine!
Just a though of course..
best regards
dany
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From: "ron iles" roniles at eircom.net> on 2003.11.16 at 13:42:08(10815)
Thanks for the kindness Dany!
If you get Genevieve (what a lovely name) to contact me or send me privately
her email. Elle parle anglais? Mon francais est pauvre. Merci mon amis.
Seulement deus semaine e puis les temps est tres tres mal. Je suis puis
frantique!
Ron
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Ron
----- Original Message -----
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Spathiphyllum 'Alfa'
> Hi Ron and friends
>
> About your collection of spath,maybe Genevieve Ferry,from the nancy bot
> garden,in France could be interesting to grow them...hey have there an
> interesant aroid collection and i know that she ,who is responsible of the
> aroid collection,grow them with both love and serious.If they can go
> there,i am sure they will be fine!
> Just a though of course..
> best regards
>
> dany
>
>
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From: "Dany Hervelle" bs246466 at skynet.be> on 2003.11.16 at 18:00:15(10817)
Hello Ron
Thank for your email
I have write to Genevieve today to wonder her if she can take your plants
there.I wait her reply.The problem is that she don't talk english....I can
send you his private email if you want it anyway,or made the translation (or
try!)because my english is poor also!
Let me know
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What's about you,Ron?Have you health problems?
Best regards
Dany
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From: "ron iles" roniles at eircom.net> on 2003.11.16 at 19:07:15(10818)
Hi Dany,
Thanks! I can answer any personal questions if you write to me at
roniles@eircom.net.
I do not know if it helps but you can get free on-line machine translation
across many languages including French by using the on-line translation
service web sites such as "World Lingo". We always understand your English
thanks!
Best Wishes
Ron
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Cheers
----- Original Message -----
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Spathiphyllum 'Alfa'
> Hello Ron
>
> Thank for your email
>
> I have write to Genevieve today to wonder her if she can take your plants
> there.I wait her reply.The problem is that she don't talk english....I
can
> send you his private email if you want it anyway,or made the translation
(or
> try!)because my english is poor also!
> Let me know
> What's about you,Ron?Have you health problems?
> Best regards
>
> Dany
>
>
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From: Pieter Colpaert pieter_cactus at yahoo.co.uk> on 2003.11.18 at 16:00:31(10830)
Hello,
Thanks for the hints and the contact adresses.
Regards,
Pieter
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Pieter Colpaert
Avelgem, Belgium
pieter_cactus@yahoo.co.uk
http://studwww.UGent.be/~pcolpaer/
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