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Furtadoa
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From: "Chanrit Sinhabaedya" siamanthus at hotmail.com> on 2003.04.05 at 03:08:36(10079)
Does anybody has pictures or further information about both species of
Furtadoa, F. mixta and F. sumatrensis?
:)
Chanrit Sinhabaedya
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Bangkok Thailand.
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From: "Peter Boyce" boyce at pothos.demon.co.uk> on 2003.04.05 at 13:39:32(10082)
Hi Chanrit
'Mayo, Bogner & Boyce (1997) The Genera of Araceae, a full decription of the
genus, a libe plate of both species & a colour pic. of F. sumatrana.
The plants resemble strongly Homalomena subgen. Chamaecladon, and can only
be told apart by dissecting a newly opened inflorescence.
If you
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Subject: [aroid-l] Furtadoa
> Does anybody has pictures or further information about both species of
> Furtadoa, F. mixta and F. sumatrensis?
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> :)
> Chanrit Sinhabaedya
> Bangkok Thailand.
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From: "Chanrit Sinhabaedya" siamanthus at hotmail.com> on 2003.04.06 at 02:32:10(10085)
Thanks alot Peter, I'm glad to see you here back again.
There are some aroids I've collected from southern Thailand that look much
similar to Furtadoa according to the picture in The Genera of Araceae.
Anyway I'm not sure if all of them are Furtadoa, as Furtadoa has only 2
species for the entire genus, but I have as least 5-6 different forms and 3
of them totally different from each other. So the rest of mine might be
Homalomena subgen. Chamaecladon as you said.
:)
Chanrit Sinhabaedya
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Bangkok Thailand.
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Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Furtadoa
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 15:39:32 +0200
Hi Chanrit
'Mayo, Bogner & Boyce (1997) The Genera of Araceae, a full decription of
the
genus, a libe plate of both species & a colour pic. of F. sumatrana.
The plants resemble strongly Homalomena subgen. Chamaecladon, and can only
be told apart by dissecting a newly opened inflorescence.
If you
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Subject: [aroid-l] Furtadoa
> Does anybody has pictures or further information about both species of
> Furtadoa, F. mixta and F. sumatrensis?
>
> :)
> Chanrit Sinhabaedya
> Bangkok Thailand.
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From: "Peter Boyce" boyce at pothos.demon.co.uk> on 2003.04.06 at 09:44:52(10086)
Hi Chanrit
Yes, I'm back and aroiding!
If you have found Furtadoa in Thailand the it will be either F. mixta (which
is widespread but rather rare in southern peninsular Malaysia) or it will be
a new species. Whereabouts did you find the plants?
Are the leaves plain green or variegated? F. sumatrana is always
cloudy-variegated.
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Furtadoa mixta looks like a large plant (c. 20 cm tall) of Homalomena
humilis or H. deltoidea, even in when flower. You will have to dissect an
inflorescence to be sure of the genus. In Homalomena subg. Chamaecladon the
male flowers are in a uniform mass above the females whereas in Furtadoa
each male flower is associated with a prominent pistillode, giving the male
portion of the spadix a rather 'bristly' appearance. Oh, yes, you need to
dissect an inflorescence just before or just as it opens. The inflorescences
only last a day or so and then close and then the peduncle droops. Such
post-anthesis inflorescences look fine but on opening you'll find that the
critical male portion has rotted or been eaten by the maggots of the flies
that visit and pollinate.
Another feature of subgen. Chamaecladon is that the species are very
variable in the field such that in a small area of forest it's possible to
find many different looking leaf types that, on flowering, all prove to be
the same species.
Looking forward to hearing what you have.
Best wishes
Peter
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