Typhoniums linked to God Numbers

From: "Ron Iles" roniles at eircom.net> on 2003.02.10 at 18:40:42(9963) Egregio Carlo You wrote under "Typhonium linked"... ....the only righteous indignation I can arouse is when someone doesn't > follow the rules--or stretches them to the point that logic fails. +More >>>>>>>>Rules? Ah me! What would 'uman life & survival be without rules & logic! Logic! Running on mono-rails to pre-conceived earthly destinations, reducing fears of going nowhere or possibility of nasty serenip. E'en for your own righteous indignation, why not spiral the rails & bring hot air & wings for the clockwork train?. > Whenever I get in a muddle about taxonomic/nomenclatural matters I fall back on my short list. >>>>>>>Admirable....for Spock? >>>>>>>>Is not Nature like hot air, not easily boxed unless coloured with smoke? > > 1. get the best information you can >>>>>>>>>>>best? > > 2. try to understand the reason for the proposed change. >>>>>>>>>>a mortal need to impose pretty order on unbearable Infinity? > > 3. just for yucks, form your own opinion and see which side of the fence > you fall down on. >>>>>>>>>>you only see two sides of a fence? What is a yuck? > > 4. remember that all this stuff is invented by us. NOTHING had a name until > man came along. >>>>>>>>>>NOTHING? how do you know that? > 5. the plants don't care. > > 6. the plants don't care. > > 7. the plants don't care. > >>>>>>>>How do you know that? I report that they smile when I whisper oo, ah, wow, wee.. those are all words. All of my plants have happy names like that & when people call them bad names they droop. They push out bad bad labels with their roots at night & you find them miles away later. If they don't like your name on the label they make it fade quick whatever ink or pencil you use. Plants don't care what they are called? Well, I ask you! >>>>>>>>The plants care >>>>>>>>the plants care How many times? Plants CARE! Anyway, in a computer democracy, plants should have God numbers which go on for ever not posh first names & surnames like 'umans, illogical. Wilbert & friends your work is brill. I hate taxonomy Ron

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2003.02.11 at 15:42:17(9967) > Wilbert & friends your work is brill. I hate taxonomy > > Ron +More Am I being a fool or do others also not understand why good ol' Ron writes such a mysterious quote to a taxonomist? Wilbert

From: hermine hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2003.02.12 at 17:24:58(9971) Am I being a fool or do others also not understand why good ol' Ron writes such a mysterious quote to a taxonomist? Wilbert +More I think you are ANYTHING but a fool. my take on this statement when i read it, is that for an amateur trying to keep up, taxonomy seems horribly complex. So one is grateful somebody else does it because it is SUCH A JOB. My husband who is actually quite fastidious about correct names, also claims from time to time to hate taxonomists, even tho i have a cousin who IS one. Anyway, this is how i interpreted the message when it first read it. my great contribution to taxonomy is the removal of wrong labels. hermine

From: "Ron Iles" roniles at eircom.net> on 2003.02.12 at 17:57:59(9972) Sorry, Good 'ole Wilb, I was applauding your recent Floral Art Work on line & Oh! It should have read "I hate taxidermy" not "I hate taxonomy", whatever that is +More Happy Valentine's Day or whatever from R ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Typhoniums linked to God Numbers > > Wilbert & friends your work is brill. I hate taxonomy > > > > Ron > > Am I being a fool or do others also not understand why good ol' Ron writes > such a mysterious quote to a taxonomist? > > Wilbert > >

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2003.02.13 at 15:20:54(9973) hah, and I am supposed to believe this lousy attempt at an excuse????? Hee, hee, you better try again, Ronnieboy!! Wilb (didn't get a valentine ......yet.......sob, sob) +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu > [mailto:aroid-l-owner@lists.ncsu.edu]Namens Ron Iles > Verzonden: woensdag 12 februari 2003 18:58 > Aan: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu > Onderwerp: Re: [aroid-l] Typhoniums linked to God Numbers > > > Sorry, Good 'ole Wilb, I was applauding your recent Floral > Art Work on line > & Oh! It should have read "I hate taxidermy" not "I hate taxonomy", > whatever that is > > Happy Valentine's Day or whatever from R > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:42 PM > Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Typhoniums linked to God Numbers > > > > > Wilbert & friends your work is brill. I hate taxonomy > > > > > > Ron > > > > Am I being a fool or do others also not understand why good > ol' Ron writes > > such a mysterious quote to a taxonomist? > > > > Wilbert > > > > > > > >

From: Steve Marak samarak at arachne.uark.edu> on 2003.02.13 at 20:11:25(9974) On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: > > Wilbert & friends your work is brill. I hate taxonomy > > Am I being a fool or do others also not understand why good ol' Ron writes > such a mysterious quote to a taxonomist? Made sense to me, but I assumed by "hate taxonomy" he meant "hate the ICBN" rather than taxonomists themselves or the work they do. I have the highest regard for Wilbert, Tom, Peter, and all the other aroid researchers - no one who has been around them at all will question their incredible knowledge of aroids or plants in general. I don't question their decisions about how closely things are related, either, even when I (gently) harass them about the fallout. On the other hand - as a complete amateur in botany but something of a connoisseur of really badly designed data systems (having, unfortunately, been exposed to so many!) - the ICBN is so very bad that I use it as an example of how NOT to build systems. Few others provide so many instructive bad features in one place. Steve +More -- Steve Marak -- samarak@arachne.uark.edu

From: hermine hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2003.02.14 at 00:49:45(9976) At 04:20 PM 02/13/2003 +0100, Wilbert Hetterscheid wrote: hah, and I am supposed to believe this lousy attempt at an excuse????? Hee, hee, you better try again, Ronnieboy!! Wilb (didn't get a valentine ......yet.......sob, sob) it is still only feb 13th! i mistakenly sang happy birthday to my husband this morning since valentines day is his birthday, and a careful check of the calendar showed it was PREMATURE! hermine

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