Zantedeschia availability??

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.05.02 at 04:34:41(8704) Dear Folks, I am loking to aquire/buy a few doramnt tubers of Zantedeschia aethopica (or any large, white spathed clone) for a friend here in S. Florida who wants to grow it 'wet'. Does anyone know the warmth/cold requirements of this genus??? Is there a species or clone that will grow eell wet and warm?? I look forward to your replys! Cheers, Julius

From: GeoffAroid at aol.com on 2002.05.02 at 15:41:56(8706) Julius, My experience is that most of the cultivars of Z. aethiopica will love it wet and warm. It is often grown standing permanently in water in botanic gardens here and the only problem I would forsee is that it grows VERY fast under such conditions. There are of course both short and tall cultivars (up to 5-6 ft is not unusual), the shorter clones tending to have much more open, flatter spathes ie. Z. aethiopica 'crowbrough'. I prefer the taller forms which have beautiful tall, often tightly furled spathes. Regards, Geoffrey Kibby +More London

From: Paul Tyerman ptyerman at ozemail.com.au> on 2002.05.02 at 15:46:31(8709) Julius, Zantedeschia aethopica grows so well wet and warm that it is regarded as a noxious weed in many parts of Australia. It colonises coastal waterways in many parts of Aus and can become quite a pest. I do not know what you mean by "warm" but I am talking places that in many cases never get even close to a frost, let alone actually getting one. These tend to grow in the swampy conditions on waterway edges. I would assume that the varieties we have here in Australia are nothing particularly uncommon, so I figure you should be easily able to get a warm and wet variety for your friend. I hope this is of some help. Cheers. Paul Tyerman +More Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:ptyerman@ozemail.com.au Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Cyclamen, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!

From: "George R Stilwell, Jr." grsjr at juno.com> on 2002.05.02 at 15:48:04(8710) Julius, Z. aethiopica grows well here in North Carolina (zone 7) in spite of getting zapped every fall by the frost. It's native to South Africa (zone 10) and loves the warm weather. +More It also loves wet soil, so any clone will do very well for your friend. Most garden centers here have the tubers and end up practically giving them away at the end of the season. Alternately, all the Tulip,suppliers carry them, for example Van Dyck's offers them at 3 for $13.95 and their tubers are robust. They also offer Z. x 'Pink Mist' which is a pink version shaped like aethiopica and the famous A. aethiopica 'Green Goddess' a most unusual form. If your friend needs loads of them, the Oregon Bulb Company offers a wonderful selection of superior tubers at wholesale. The folks from AEG (Arisaema Enthusiasts Group) joined forces and put in a joint order a few years ago. The resulting plants are wonderful and they were quite inexpensive. Another possibility is to grow them from seed. Z. aethiopica only takes about 3 years to first bloom and they might be forced like we force Arisaema. Ray GRSJr@worldnet.att.net ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

From: mburack at mindspring.com> on 2002.05.02 at 15:51:16(8712) Julius.... This may not be what you are looking for, but I hand pollinated my "giant", "herculies" or whatever other cultivar name you want to give it (the mammoth white one with the white spots on the leaves). The infruct. is quite huge and I am sure the berries will be ripe soon.. I will be looking to keep a bunch for myself as this cultivar is so gigantic and amazing.. but I will have plenty to spare. If you or others would like some.. feel free to let me know. Also, I grow one in a reletively dry area... I grow one grossly wet..both in the heat (I am in S. Florida as well) and the winter temps dont bother them at all and they dont go dormant for me. It is about as adaptable as it gets... I only notice that it flowers infrequently in the summer? Heavy in spring and fall...also fragrant (from close up :) (with all of that said...the berries are currently very big and swollen.. but juuuust turning a lighter shade from the "green" they were..how long should these things need to go before they are fully ripe?) +More On Wed, 1 May 2002 23:34:29 -0500 (CDT) Julius Boos wrote: Dear Folks, ? I am loking to aquire/buy a few doramnt tubers of Zantedeschia aethopica (or any large, white spathed clone) for a friend here in S. Florida who wants to grow it 'wet'.?? Does anyone know the warmth/cold requirements of this genus????? Is there a species or clone that will grow eell wet and warm?? ? I look forward to your replys! ? Cheers, ? Julius

From: "Kathy Kempf" wont_read101 at hotmail.com> on 2002.05.02 at 20:30:55(8717) For me here in Zone 6, I have grown a zantadeschia unknown white hybrid in a pot sunken in my water garden to a depth of 3" above soil level. It thrives. Maximum temp survived is 95+ with this method. Leaves burn in full sun. I have grown this in regular conditions with same results. A few volunteers have regularly come up every year with no special treatment. Bulbs multiply very rapidly in good soil, less so in water. One of my first aroids! Seedpods tend to droop without full sun, but that makes more volunteers! Happy to share a couple if you want; I gave away most last fall, but still have some and will have many more by fall! >From: "Julius Boos" >Reply-To: aroid-l@mobot.org +More >To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L >Subject: Zantedeschia availability?? >Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 23:34:32 -0500 (CDT) > >Dear Folks, > >I am loking to aquire/buy a few doramnt tubers of Zantedeschia aethopica >(or any large, white spathed clone) for a friend here in S. Florida who >wants to grow it 'wet'. Does anyone know the warmth/cold requirements of >this genus??? Is there a species or clone that will grow eell wet and >warm?? > >I look forward to your replys! > >Cheers, > >Julius _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.05.04 at 20:13:02(8721) Thanks, Geoffrey! It will be a help when I obtain some for my friend! Julius +More Julius, My experience is that most of the cultivars of Z. aethiopica will love it wet and warm. It is often grown standing permanently in water in botanic gardens here and the only problem I would forsee is that it grows VERY fast under such conditions. There are of course both short and tall cultivars (up to 5-6 ft is not unusual), the shorter clones tending to have much more open, flatter spathes ie. Z. aethiopica 'crowbrough'. I prefer the taller forms which have beautiful tall, often tightly furled spathes. Regards, Geoffrey Kibby London

From: "Celeste Whitlow" politicalamazon at charter.net> on 2002.05.05 at 05:22:01(8725) I just looked on Google to see what the heck a Zantedeschia looks like. Surely you are not talking about the calla? It is invasive here. In fact, if you make the mistake of not pasteurizing (or discarding) media from a pot that once grew calla lilies, and if you attempt to reuse the media, you will have them coming up in whatever you put the media in. Even pasteurizing doesn't kill the larger tubers but, hopefully, you will have screened your media first to get those out. The ones that are the worst are the common white ones. Hopefully the more beautifully colored ones are not so ninja. In my experience, you cannot give them too much water, but they tolerate clay soil just fine, even in a pot, so keeping water on them is usually not a problem. Don't give them good media with good aeration because it will just encourage them. +More In my experience, they are phosphorous 'ho's, however. I made the mistake of giving them some "bloom-booster" type high-phosphorus fertilizer once and the blooms were out of this world, but mama-mia! it seems to have encouraged tuber production like you would not believe. If anybody wants any tubers from the common white calla, give me a holler, and let me know how many pounds you want. --Celeste ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L" Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Zantedeschia availability?? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:41 AM > Subject: Re: Zantedeschia availability?? > > > Thanks, Geoffrey! > > It will be a help when I obtain some for my friend! > > Julius > > Julius, > > My experience is that most of the cultivars of Z. aethiopica will love it > wet > and warm. It is often grown standing permanently in water in botanic gardens > here and the only problem I would forsee is that it grows VERY fast under > such conditions. There are of course both short and tall cultivars (up to > 5-6 > ft is not unusual), the shorter clones tending to have much more open, > flatter spathes ie. Z. aethiopica 'crowbrough'. I prefer the taller forms > which have beautiful tall, often tightly furled spathes. > > Regards, > Geoffrey Kibby > London > > >

From: "George R Stilwell, Jr." grsjr at juno.com> on 2002.05.06 at 02:57:15(8727) Kathy, >Seedpods tend to droop without full sun, .... Drooping seed heads are one of the characteristics that distinguish one species from +More another and are part of Dr. Singh's key for the genus. I doubt that it has to do with the amount of sunlight, rather it's genetically determined. Ray GRSJr@worldnet.att.net ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

From: "Kathy Kempf" wont_read101 at hotmail.com> on 2002.05.08 at 20:51:04(8736) George, All my callas came from a single tuber; as a regular thing, the ones planted where they receive more than 6 hours of sun/day (full sun) stand up straight; the ones that receive <1 hour sun/day droop. The ones that get from 1-6 hours kind of droop. I assumed it was more a function of the amount of sun received rather than dependent on the species. No, I don't deliberately place any of mine in full shade; these are mostly volunteers, or maybe from seed harvested by various insects/rodents and stored that have later sprouted. I come across them from time to time. They seem to survive our winter here (zone 6) with only the natural leaf mulch in our woodland. +More >From: "George R Stilwell, Jr." >Reply-To: aroid-l@mobot.org >To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L >Subject: Re: Zantedeschia availability?? >Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 21:57:12 -0500 (CDT) > >Kathy, > > >Seedpods tend to droop without full sun, .... > >Drooping seed heads are one of the characteristics that distinguish one >species from >another and are part of Dr. Singh's key for the genus. I doubt that it >has to do with the >amount of sunlight, rather it's genetically determined. > >Ray >GRSJr@worldnet.att.net > > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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