Alocasia Polly + lowii

From: "zonneveld" zonneveld at rulbim.leidenuniv.nl> on 2002.03.14 at 17:52:15(8286) Earlier I reported the following ( see below) about Alocasia lowii. Although I did not get a response I will continue with some more results. This time we look at Alocasia x amazonica Polly It is clear from the leaf that it is thicker then the standard x amazonica were it came from via tc. I measured an equal piece of leaf and found 14 mg for the standard and 20 mg for Polly so that fits HOWEVER it turns out that the DNA is equal ie 10.1 pg So Polly is not a polyploid EARLIER: THanks Julius for the likely cv status of A. Tigrina Superba Now I have a more difficult one I suppose From the leaves provided by Denis from Silver Krome Gardens, I measured for Alocasia lowii Veitchii 22.3 pg and for A lowii Grandis 18.4 pg So in my opinion they are different species.Any comment would be welcome Ben J.M.Zonneveld Clusius lab pobox 9505 2300 RA Leiden +More The Netherlands mintemp-16C(5F) Zonneveld@RULbim.LeidenUniv.NL Fax: 31-71-5274999

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.03.15 at 14:05:22(8289) Dear Ben, I did receive your previous posting, but things have ben bretty tough here w/ me in the last few weeks, sorry that I did not acknowledge your kind information. I am glad that I could supply some information on the 'relationship' between Alocasia 'Tigrina superba', this came from the book on Aroids by my friend Deni Bown, but I am not a big 'fan' of Alocasias, so unfortunately can offer no information on the relationships of the ones presently under discussion. I hear that they are being produced by Philipine growers, so who knows or can even discover what they may be doing or what crosses they may be making with different species! Best wishes, Julius +More >>Earlier I reported the following ( see below) about Alocasia lowii. Although I did not get a response I will continue with some more results. This time we look at Alocasia x amazonica Polly It is clear from the leaf that it is thicker then the standard x amazonica were it came from via tc. I measured an equal piece of leaf and found 14 mg for the standard and 20 mg for Polly so that fits HOWEVER it turns out that the DNA is equal ie 10.1 pg So Polly is not a polyploid EARLIER: THanks Julius for the likely cv status of A. Tigrina Superba Now I have a more difficult one I suppose From the leaves provided by Denis from Silver Krome Gardens, I measured for Alocasia lowii Veitchii 22.3 pg and for A lowii Grandis 18.4 pg So in my opinion they are different species.Any comment would be welcome Ben J.M.Zonneveld Clusius lab pobox 9505 2300 RA Leiden The Netherlands mintemp-16C(5F) Zonneveld@RULbim.LeidenUniv.NL Fax: 31-71-5274999

From: "Dany Hervelle" bs246466 at skynet.be> on 2002.03.15 at 16:39:31(8291) Alocasia lowii is really a confuse species,and is now considered to be a synonim for alocasia longiloba(in the last revision from Alistair Hay).We had normaly to call this sp alocasia longiloba 'lowii'.This species is considering to be a really variable sp so we have now alocasia longiloba 'lowii',alocasia longiloba 'korthalsii',alocasia longiloba 'putseizii',alocasia longiloba 'watsoniana',alocasia longiloba 'denudata',alocasia longiloba 'thibeautiana' ..etc.Dr Alistair hay say in his last revision that more research had to be made about that sp. I have here lot of cvs of alocasia longiloba;if you want some leaves for your research,let me know and i will be happy to send you Alocasia tigrina 'superba' and alocasia 'reticulata' are both considering to be cvs of alocasia zebrina.But it is also a confusing sp. Regards +More Dany

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