Alocasia araceae

From: "Gabe Thomas" CDANIELLE at prodigy.net> on 2001.03.21 at 14:19:05(6061) In the March-April edition of Pond & Garden Magazine (published in USA) there is an article titled "Hot Selling Aquatic Plants to Buy Early". One suggested plant is Alocasia araceae, introduced by Suwanee Laboratories, which is described as "a multi-colored taro, A. a., featuring splashes of lavender , yellow, white, and pink in its leaves". Is anyone familiar with this plant or Suwanee Laboratories? Can anyone provide information on how to contact a distributor of this plant? Any help would be much appreciated. Gabe Thomas

From: "Dany Hervelle" bs246466 at skynet.be> on 2001.03.23 at 04:20:31(6062) Hello Gabe and list! I don't know nothing about alocasia araceae,but if someone know i may be really happy +More to know too.Is this a new species or a new variety? Regards to all Dany

From: "Derek Burch" derek at horticulturist.com> on 2001.03.23 at 14:22:39(6064) Surely there is a simple explanation - the catalogue maker is not too familiar with scientific nomenclature, and is just saying "Alocasia (Araceae)" - giving the family name and not committing to any further i.d. than the genus of the plant. [Note that I am refraining from any snotty comment about people's unwillingness to become comfortable with scientific names.] derek +More ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L" Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:20 PM Subject: Re: Alocasia araceae > Hello Gabe and list! > I don't know nothing about alocasia araceae,but if someone know i may be > really happy > to know too.Is this a new species or a new variety? > Regards to all > > Dany > > >

From: StellrJ at aol.com on 2001.03.23 at 15:53:28(6065) In a message dated 3/22/01 11:20:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, bs246466@skynet.be writes: << I don't know nothing about alocasia araceae >> +More Perhaps a better question would be, is this a valid name? Araceae, as we all know, is the family; perhaps someone originally labeled it "Alocasia (Areceae)," and this was later mistranscribed. Jason Hernandez Naturalist-at-Large

From: Lester Kallus lkallus at earthlink.net> on 2001.03.23 at 21:24:39(6066) From the description of this Alocasia, though, it sounds like something described by a college kid in the late 60s. The individual who witnessed these splashes of lavender , yellow, white, and pink on its leaves may have been ingesting something other than giberillic acid. Les +More At 08:22 AM 3/23/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Surely there is a simple explanation - the catalogue maker is not too >familiar with scientific nomenclature, and is just saying "Alocasia >(Araceae)" - giving the family name and not committing to any further i.d. >than the genus of the plant. [Note that I am refraining from any snotty >comment about people's unwillingness to become comfortable with scientific >names.] derek >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dany Hervelle" >To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L" >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:20 PM >Subject: Re: Alocasia araceae > > > > Hello Gabe and list! > > I don't know nothing about alocasia araceae,but if someone know i may be > > really happy > > to know too.Is this a new species or a new variety? > > Regards to all > > > > Dany > > > > > >

From: "Gabe Thomas" CDANIELLE at prodigy.net> on 2001.03.24 at 04:56:54(6070) I don't think it's to hard to picture (no psychedelics needed), I imagine if Colocasia 'Black Magic' could be crossed with Alocasia (Colocasia?) 'Hilo Beauty' it would look somewhat similar to the description. I know Alocasia araceae is incorrect nomenclature, but that's how it was written in the article. However, the improper nomenclature could be a typo or confusion on the part of the writer. Anyway, is anyone familiar with Suwanee Loboratories located in Florida? I can't find any reference to them online. Gabe +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: Re: Alocasia araceae > From the description of this Alocasia, though, it sounds like something > described by a college kid in the late 60s. The individual who witnessed > these splashes of lavender , yellow, white, and pink on its leaves may have > been ingesting something other than giberillic acid. > Les > > At 08:22 AM 3/23/2001 -0600, you wrote: > >Surely there is a simple explanation - the catalogue maker is not too > >familiar with scientific nomenclature, and is just saying "Alocasia > >(Araceae)" - giving the family name and not committing to any further i.d. > >than the genus of the plant. [Note that I am refraining from any snotty > >comment about people's unwillingness to become comfortable with scientific > >names.] derek >

From: "John Presnell" jcpresnell at earthlink.net> on 2001.03.24 at 17:28:20(6071) Haven't seen the article, but sounds like what some are selling as Colocasia 'Black Marble'. Suwannee Labs is a long established aquatic plant nursery in I think, Lake City FL. Was started by Don Bryne who has some hybridized lilies to his name, but if this plant is 'Black Marble', it originated at Fl Aquatic Nursery in Ft Lauderdale. To my knowledge, both operations are wholesale only. I should have a few pups of Black Marble in a week or so, if you are interested let me know, and when they go forth and multiply, I'll get you one. I should also add, that I have spoken with a TC lab that attempted them and there is trouble with them reverting to C. illustris....at least in TC. Craig

From: Dean Sliger deanslgr at juno.com> on 2001.03.24 at 17:29:01(6073) Just tossing something out from left field, adding to the speculation frenzy, but have we ruled out that the plant's not a Caladium? I know many aroid-ers will huff and guffah at the idea, but to the "average" person there isn't a lot of difference. Many gardening catalogues list Alocasias and Colocasias as "elephant ear caladiums." What someone needs to do is get their hands on a specimen of the plant in question. Dean +More On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:56:54 -0600 (CST) "Gabe Thomas" writes: > I don't think it's to hard to picture (no psychedelics needed), I > imagine if > Colocasia 'Black Magic' could be crossed with Alocasia (Colocasia?) > 'Hilo > Beauty' it would look somewhat similar to the description. I know > Alocasia > araceae is incorrect nomenclature, but that's how it was written in > the > article. However, the improper nomenclature could be a typo or > confusion on > the part of the writer. Anyway, is anyone familiar with Suwanee > Loboratories > located in Florida? I can't find any reference to them online. > > Gabe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lester Kallus > To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: Alocasia araceae > > > > From the description of this Alocasia, though, it sounds like > something > > described by a college kid in the late 60s. The individual who > witnessed > > these splashes of lavender , yellow, white, and pink on its leaves > may > have > > been ingesting something other than giberillic acid. > > Les > > > > At 08:22 AM 3/23/2001 -0600, you wrote: > > >Surely there is a simple explanation - the catalogue maker is not > too > > >familiar with scientific nomenclature, and is just saying > "Alocasia > > >(Araceae)" - giving the family name and not committing to any > further > i.d. > > >than the genus of the plant. [Note that I am refraining from any > snotty > > >comment about people's unwillingness to become comfortable with > scientific > > >names.] derek > > > >

From: "brian williams" pugturd50 at hotmail.com> on 2001.03.24 at 17:29:14(6074) Hello It sounds to me to be a form of Alocasia with a variegation. Maybe Plumbea or another form. Almost sounds like the Alocasia on this site. http://exotica-tropical.com/FEUILLAGESEN.html +More Not a great pic but may be close. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2001.03.25 at 02:30:38(6077) I too have been pondering the possabilities, and agree w/ Dean here in that we need to SEE a specimen, this will be the proof of the pudding! At this point everything is speculation! Julius Boos +More W. P. B., Florida >Just tossing something out from left field, adding to the speculation frenzy, but have we ruled out that the plant's not a Caladium? I know many aroid-ers will huff and guffah at the idea, but to the "average" person there isn't a lot of difference. Many gardening catalogues list Alocasias and Colocasias as "elephant ear caladiums." What someone needs to do is get their hands on a specimen of the plant in question. Dean<< On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:56:54 -0600 (CST) "Gabe Thomas" writes: > I don't think it's to hard to picture (no psychedelics needed), I > imagine if > Colocasia 'Black Magic' could be crossed with Alocasia (Colocasia?) > 'Hilo > Beauty' it would look somewhat similar to the description. I know > Alocasia > araceae is incorrect nomenclature, but that's how it was written in > the > article. However, the improper nomenclature could be a typo or > confusion on > the part of the writer. Anyway, is anyone familiar with Suwanee > Loboratories > located in Florida? I can't find any reference to them online. > > Gabe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lester Kallus > To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: Alocasia araceae > > > > From the description of this Alocasia, though, it sounds like > something > > described by a college kid in the late 60s. The individual who > witnessed > > these splashes of lavender , yellow, white, and pink on its leaves > may > have > > been ingesting something other than giberillic acid. > > Les > > > > At 08:22 AM 3/23/2001 -0600, you wrote: > > >Surely there is a simple explanation - the catalogue maker is not > too > > >familiar with scientific nomenclature, and is just saying > "Alocasia > > >(Araceae)" - giving the family name and not committing to any > further > i.d. > > >than the genus of the plant. [Note that I am refraining from any > snotty > > >comment about people's unwillingness to become comfortable with > scientific > > >names.] derek > > > >

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