Philodendron spiritus-sancti

From: "Jay Vannini" interbnk at terra.com.gt> on 2000.10.03 at 20:06:42(5514) Howdy, all! Eduardo Goncalve's message on his visit to the Burle-Marx collection (the lucky devil!) jogged my somewhat uncertain memory about Philodendron spiritus-sancti a.k.a. P. "Santa Leopoldina" #1. I have a plant that is supposed to be this species - it does show most of the characteristics described in the paper published on it, EXCEPT the petiole shape, which in mine is markedly flattened on the upper surface, or hemispheric in cross-section. The stem and petioles of this plant also flush scarlet at times (in response to who knows what), and the leaves keep changing size, although not shape. Although grown from a very small stem cutting, leaves are now reaching over 20" in length - the distance between internodes is extremely short (<1"), making the plant look almost like a self-header. Oddly, for a Philodendron, it seems happiest at cooler temperatures. What I am curious about is whether the plants illustrated in Exotica and Tropica and labelled P. Santa Leopoldina are, in fact, P. spiritus-sancti. My plant is almost a dead ringer for both of these two, so if it's in fact something else that's for sale at the neighborhood Home Depot for 4.99 - PLEASE BE GENTLE. +More Cheerio, Jay

From: "Scott Lucas" htbg at ilhawaii.net> on 2000.10.04 at 18:39:58(5516) Aloha Jay, I took a look at the photograph of Philodendron 'Santa Leopoldina' in Exotica and can observe that this is not the same plant that I have, which I think may be the "true" Philodenddron spiritus-sancti. The leaves on my plant are much narrower, the upper lobes of the leaf much sharper and, now that appears to finally be setting into a more or less mature growth pattern, the leaves are measuring a consistent four feet in length. Mine came from the IAS Auction in Miami in 1997 and, while it has grown consistently, the stem is only about six inches long yet. There is really no internode between petioles at all. It is a truly handsome plant with deep green upper surfaces to the leaves and undersides red/purple. It flowered for the first time this year, producing 5 inflorescences... but no fruit. When it does (if it does) fruit, I will be anxious to pass seed out to all takers! Scott A. Lucas +More ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L" Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:06 AM Subject: Philodendron spiritus-sancti > Howdy, all! > > Eduardo Goncalve's message on his visit to the Burle-Marx collection (the > lucky devil!) jogged my somewhat uncertain memory about Philodendron > spiritus-sancti a.k.a. P. "Santa Leopoldina" #1. I have a plant that is > supposed to be this species - it does show most of the characteristics > described in the paper published on it, EXCEPT the petiole shape, which in > mine is markedly flattened on the upper surface, or hemispheric in > cross-section. The stem and petioles of this plant also flush scarlet at > times (in response to who knows what), and the leaves keep changing size, > although not shape. Although grown from a very small stem cutting, leaves > are now reaching over 20" in length - the distance between internodes is > extremely short (<1"), making the plant look almost like a self-header. > Oddly, for a Philodendron, it seems happiest at cooler temperatures. > > What I am curious about is whether the plants illustrated in Exotica and > Tropica and labelled P. Santa Leopoldina are, in fact, P. spiritus-sancti. > My plant is almost a dead ringer for both of these two, so if it's in fact > something else that's for sale at the neighborhood Home Depot for 4.99 - > PLEASE BE GENTLE. > > Cheerio, > > Jay > > >

From: "Jay Vannini" interbnk at terra.com.gt> on 2000.10.04 at 20:35:49(5518) Hola, Scott! Again, part of your description matches mine (almost no distance between successive petioles, etc., stem still about 4" long), and leaf shape is still kinda variable because this plant came from a microscopic cutting, so it's still shape-shifting a bit. Last night when I went home, I checked it a bit more carefully and noticed that the veins of the undersurface of the four most recent four leave are a vivid scarlet like the petioles, that does not "bleed" onto the lamina itself. The posterior lobes of this plant do appear a bit "sharper" than the Exotica photos (rather remiscent of some Alocasia spp.), and the drip tip "corkscrews" about 90 degrees in all leaves. The upper leaf surface color is a deep green with very few veins that are extremely pale in contrast. The leaves possess and almost patent leather finish. I understand that there are very few "lineages" established in the U.S. of Santa Leopoldina I - although perhaps there is significant variation within the population after all? Will try and post a photo of this beast on the IAS ID site when the weather clears a bit. Thanks for your input - Jay +More -----Original Message----- To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Date: Mi?rcoles, 04 de Octubre de 2000 12:38 p.m. Subject: Re: Philodendron spiritus-sancti >Aloha Jay, > >I took a look at the photograph of Philodendron 'Santa Leopoldina' in >Exotica and can observe that this is not the same plant that I have, which I >think may be the "true" Philodenddron spiritus-sancti. The leaves on my >plant are much narrower, the upper lobes of the leaf much sharper and, now >that appears to finally be setting into a more or less mature growth >pattern, the leaves are measuring a consistent four feet in length. Mine >came from the IAS Auction in Miami in 1997 and, while it has grown >consistently, the stem is only about six inches long yet. There is really >no internode between petioles at all. It is a truly handsome plant with >deep green upper surfaces to the leaves and undersides red/purple. It >flowered for the first time this year, producing 5 inflorescences... but no >fruit. When it does (if it does) fruit, I will be anxious to pass seed out >to all takers! > >Scott A. Lucas > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jay Vannini" >To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L" >Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:06 AM >Subject: Philodendron spiritus-sancti > > >> Howdy, all! >> >> Eduardo Goncalve's message on his visit to the Burle-Marx collection (the >> lucky devil!) jogged my somewhat uncertain memory about Philodendron >> spiritus-sancti a.k.a. P. "Santa Leopoldina" #1. I have a plant that is >> supposed to be this species - it does show most of the characteristics >> described in the paper published on it, EXCEPT the petiole shape, which in >> mine is markedly flattened on the upper surface, or hemispheric in >> cross-section. The stem and petioles of this plant also flush scarlet at >> times (in response to who knows what), and the leaves keep changing size, >> although not shape. Although grown from a very small stem cutting, leaves >> are now reaching over 20" in length - the distance between internodes is >> extremely short (<1"), making the plant look almost like a self-header. >> Oddly, for a Philodendron, it seems happiest at cooler temperatures. >> >> What I am curious about is whether the plants illustrated in Exotica and >> Tropica and labelled P. Santa Leopoldina are, in fact, P. spiritus-sancti. >> My plant is almost a dead ringer for both of these two, so if it's in fact >> something else that's for sale at the neighborhood Home Depot for 4.99 - >> PLEASE BE GENTLE. >> >> Cheerio, >> >> Jay >> >> >> > > >

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From: Denis denis at skg.com> on 2000.10.08 at 04:26:05(5528) Dear Scott and Other Aroiders: The piece you got at the auction came from the collection of Betty Waterbury who left the IAS two pieces of this lovely Philodendron and some other assorted rare Aroids in her will to support the Society which she and several others founded in the 1970's. It was collected in Brazil by the Guide who was showing her the various collecting areas in the countryside. He did not share the exact location of the collection site with her and made her wait in the car. (this is the story I was told, correct me if I'm Wrong, please.) The plants were entrusted to me to grow for the Society. It does not grow very fast in my nursery and has never flowered...perhaps it's getting too much shade. What light level are you growing in. We were set to sell another piece of the P. spiritus sancti at the Auction this year. However, an off shore customer($) came into my nursery and offered me $500 for the Scrawny basal piece which I had topped in the Spring. Since the last Auction price received was only $350 and after conferring with Tricia Frank, IAS Treasurer we decided that the $500 was a fair price and more than we were likely to get from the Auction. There should be another piece for next year. Scott, if you could get your piece of the plant to set seed that would be great. But if it were that easy there would already be millions of them out there. Monroe Birdsey alway said that the Philodendron that was growing in his trees was the same species as this Spiritus Sancti thing but nobody was ever willing to pay $350 to $500 for his plant when he gave the cuttings away for free. I regret now selling that piece for $500, for many people said to me at the show they would have liked to have bid on it. But like I said there will be another piece for next year. So far, to the best of my recollection this Plant, (thanks to the generosity of our Auction bidders) has raised about $1500 for the IAS publication fund.(Tricia correct me if this is not a high enough number.) Sorry to be so wordy. Denis Rotolante +More President IAS 2000 Silver Krome Gardens, Inc. In Slightly soggy Homestead Florida Scott Lucas wrote: > > Aloha Jay, > > I took a look at the photograph of Philodendron 'Santa Leopoldina' in > Exotica and can observe that this is not the same plant that I have, which I > think may be the "true" Philodenddron spiritus-sancti. The leaves on my > plant are much narrower, the upper lobes of the leaf much sharper and, now > that appears to finally be setting into a more or less mature growth > pattern, the leaves are measuring a consistent four feet in length. Mine > came from the IAS Auction in Miami in 1997 and, while it has grown > consistently, the stem is only about six inches long yet. There is really > no internode between petioles at all. It is a truly handsome plant with > deep green upper surfaces to the leaves and undersides red/purple. It > flowered for the first time this year, producing 5 inflorescences... but no > fruit. When it does (if it does) fruit, I will be anxious to pass seed out > to all takers! > > Scott A. Lucas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay Vannini" > To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L" > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:06 AM > Subject: Philodendron spiritus-sancti > > > Howdy, all! > > > > Eduardo Goncalve's message on his visit to the Burle-Marx collection (the > > lucky devil!) jogged my somewhat uncertain memory about Philodendron > > spiritus-sancti a.k.a. P. "Santa Leopoldina" #1. I have a plant that is > > supposed to be this species - it does show most of the characteristics > > described in the paper published on it, EXCEPT the petiole shape, which in > > mine is markedly flattened on the upper surface, or hemispheric in > > cross-section. The stem and petioles of this plant also flush scarlet at > > times (in response to who knows what), and the leaves keep changing size, > > although not shape. Although grown from a very small stem cutting, leaves > > are now reaching over 20" in length - the distance between internodes is > > extremely short (<1"), making the plant look almost like a self-header. > > Oddly, for a Philodendron, it seems happiest at cooler temperatures. > > > > What I am curious about is whether the plants illustrated in Exotica and > > Tropica and labelled P. Santa Leopoldina are, in fact, P. spiritus-sancti. > > My plant is almost a dead ringer for both of these two, so if it's in fact > > something else that's for sale at the neighborhood Home Depot for 4.99 - > > PLEASE BE GENTLE. > > > > Cheerio, > > > > Jay > > > > > >

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2000.10.08 at 20:11:11(5534) Dear Aroid Friends (and thanks, Denis!), The explaniation that Denis gives below about the source of the 'true' form of this plant being obtained in Brazil by the guide who made them wait in the car is the one I have heard. I wish that others would add to the story of this remarkable and now legendery plant, as there seems to be more than one 'clone' out there of this WONDERFUL plant, I have heard of another clone in I believe California that came from a different trip/source in Brazil, so there is more to this story! The plant that the late Dr. Monroe Birdsey grew MAY be the source of and the reason for all the other faster-growing plants of ANOTHER var. or species of Philodendron which superfically resembles the REAL one in several features, but literally grows like a weed, and has LONG internodes. A friend of mine here in WPB can not GIVE this one away fast enough, and has to use it in his mulch pile! Save your pennies for next years auction, friends! Sincerely, Julius +More >Dear Scott and Other Aroiders: The piece you got at the auction came from the collection of Betty Waterbury who left the IAS two pieces of this lovely Philodendron and some other assorted rare Aroids in her will to support the Society which she and several others founded in the 1970's. It was collected in Brazil by the Guide who was showing her the various collecting areas in the countryside. He did not share the exact location of the collection site with her and made her wait in the car. (this is the story I was told, correct me if I'm Wrong, please.) The plants were entrusted to me to grow for the Society. It does not grow very fast in my nursery and has never flowered...perhaps it's getting too much shade. What light level are you growing in. We were set to sell another piece of the P. spiritus sancti at the Auction this year. However, an off shore customer($) came into my nursery and offered me $500 for the Scrawny basal piece which I had topped in the Spring. Since the last Auction price received was only $350 and after conferring with Tricia Frank, IAS Treasurer we decided that the $500 was a fair price and more than we were likely to get from the Auction. There should be another piece for next year. Scott, if you could get your piece of the plant to set seed that would be great. But if it were that easy there would already be millions of them out there. Monroe Birdsey alway said that the Philodendron that was growing in his trees was the same species as this Spiritus Sancti thing but nobody was ever willing to pay $350 to $500 for his plant when he gave the cuttings away for free. I regret now selling that piece for $500, for many people said to me at the show they would have liked to have bid on it. But like I said there will be another piece for next year. So far, to the best of my recollection this Plant, (thanks to the generosity of our Auction bidders) has raised about $1500 for the IAS publication fund.(Tricia correct me if this is not a high enough number.) Sorry to be so wordy. Denis Rotolante President IAS 2000 Silver Krome Gardens, Inc. In Slightly soggy Homestead Florida Scott Lucas wrote: > > Aloha Jay, > > I took a look at the photograph of Philodendron 'Santa Leopoldina' in > Exotica and can observe that this is not the same plant that I have, which I > think may be the "true" Philodenddron spiritus-sancti. The leaves on my > plant are much narrower, the upper lobes of the leaf much sharper and, now > that appears to finally be setting into a more or less mature growth > pattern, the leaves are measuring a consistent four feet in length. Mine > came from the IAS Auction in Miami in 1997 and, while it has grown > consistently, the stem is only about six inches long yet. There is really > no internode between petioles at all. It is a truly handsome plant with > deep green upper surfaces to the leaves and undersides red/purple. It > flowered for the first time this year, producing 5 inflorescences... but no > fruit. When it does (if it does) fruit, I will be anxious to pass seed out > to all takers! > > Scott A. Lucas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay Vannini" > To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L" > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:06 AM > Subject: Philodendron spiritus-sancti > > > Howdy, all! > > > > Eduardo Goncalve's message on his visit to the Burle-Marx collection (the > > lucky devil!) jogged my somewhat uncertain memory about Philodendron > > spiritus-sancti a.k.a. P. "Santa Leopoldina" #1. I have a plant that is > > supposed to be this species - it does show most of the characteristics > > described in the paper published on it, EXCEPT the petiole shape, which in > > mine is markedly flattened on the upper surface, or hemispheric in > > cross-section. The stem and petioles of this plant also flush scarlet at > > times (in response to who knows what), and the leaves keep changing size, > > although not shape. Although grown from a very small stem cutting, leaves > > are now reaching over 20" in length - the distance between internodes is > > extremely short (<1"), making the plant look almost like a self-header. > > Oddly, for a Philodendron, it seems happiest at cooler temperatures. > > > > What I am curious about is whether the plants illustrated in Exotica and > > Tropica and labelled P. Santa Leopoldina are, in fact, P. spiritus-sancti. > > My plant is almost a dead ringer for both of these two, so if it's in fact > > something else that's for sale at the neighborhood Home Depot for 4.99 - > > PLEASE BE GENTLE. > > > > Cheerio, > > > > Jay > > > > > >

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From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2006.10.01 at 03:27:25(14720) Does anyone have good digital photos of the prized form of Philodendron spiritus-sancti? I'm looking for the form that recently sold at the IAS auction. I would like to use the photo to illustrate the plant on my website you you will be credited. I've found quite a bit of info on this plant in Portuguese and had it translated but haven't been able to learn the max size of the leaf blade. If anyone can provide this information and/or a photo I'd appreciate the assist. Thanks! Steve Lucas +More www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2009.10.03 at 15:13:12(20144) I found a photo in my files of theinflorescence of Philodendron spiritus-sancti. I normally filethese with the name of the person that sent the photo but this one onlyhas the name of the plant. I'm not even certain this is P.spiritus-sancti but would like to ask if any of you sent this? I'dlike to use the photo on my site with credit to the owner but need toknow who took it! Thanks! Steve HTML +More www.ExoticRainforest.com --------------030806010405000903090400

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.10.05 at 00:32:05(20154) I have the same problem, I don't know who sent to me (who took) these photos of Ph. campii. Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron spiritus-sancti I found a photo in my files of the inflorescence of Philodendron spiritus-sancti. I normally file these with the name of the person that sent the photo but this one only has the name of the plant. I'm not even certain this is P. spiritus-sancti but would like to ask if any of you sent this? I'd like to use the photo on my site with credit to the owner but need to know who took it! Thanks! Steve www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l Nie znaleziono wirusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.409 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.14.0/2406 - Data wydania: 09/30/09 18:56:00 ------=_NextPart_001_00A4_01CA4564.071F2C10--------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01CA4564.071F2C10

From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2009.10.05 at 18:16:57(20157) Dear Marek: I don’t know who’spictures these are but the plant is Philodendron campii, not P. spiritus-sancti. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] OnBehalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Sunday, October 04, 20097:32 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l]Philodendron spiritus-sancti I have the same problem, I don't know who sent to me(who took) these photos of Ph. campii. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussionof aroids Sent: Saturday,October 03, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: [Aroid-l]Philodendron spiritus-sancti I found a photo inmy files of the inflorescence ofPhilodendron spiritus-sancti. I normally file these with thename of the person that sent the photo but this one only has the name of theplant. I'm not even certain this is P.spiritus-sancti but would like to ask if any of you sent this? I'd like to use the photo on my site with credit to the owner but need to knowwho took it! Thanks! Steve www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l Nie znaleziono wirusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.409 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.14.0/2406 - Data wydania: 09/30/0918:56:00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA45E8.068288A7----==============A99892784877701958=

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.10.06 at 11:46:17(20160) Thanks! Tom Croat wrote: HTML +More Dear Marek: I don’t know who’spictures these are but the plant is Philodendron campii, not P.spiritus-sancti. Tom From:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] OnBehalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Sunday, October04, 20097:32 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l]Philodendron spiritus-sancti I have the same problem,I don't know who sent to me(who took) these photos of Ph. campii. Marek ----- Original Message----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussionof aroids Sent: Saturday,October 03, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: [Aroid-l]Philodendron spiritus-sancti I found a photo inmy files of the inflorescence ofPhilodendron spiritus-sancti. I normally file these withthename of the person that sent the photo but this one only has the nameof theplant. I'm not even certain this is P.spiritus-sancti but would like to ask if any of you sentthis? I'd like to use the photo on my site with credit to the owner but needto knowwho took it! Thanks! Steve www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l Nie znaleziono wirusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.409 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.14.0/2406 - Data wydania:09/30/0918:56:00 _______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------000808010108070709080402

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.10.08 at 20:41:28(20167) Dear Steve and Tom (and aroid photographers), We misunderstood each other. Steve posted a photo of Ph. spiritus-sancti asking who took this photo. I replied to this post sending photos of Ph. campii because I would like to publish them and I also don't know who took these photos I got from someone. I attach again these photos of Ph. campii, maybe I'll get the answer from the photographer. Best, Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron spiritus-sancti Thanks! Tom Croat wrote: Dear Marek: I don’t know who’s pictures these are but the plant is Philodendron campii, not P. spiritus-sancti. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 7:32 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron spiritus-sancti I have the same problem, I don't know who sent to me (who took) these photos of Ph. campii. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron spiritus-sancti I found a photo in my files of the inflorescence of Philodendron spiritus-sancti. I normally file these with the name of the person that sent the photo but this one only has the name of the plant. I'm not even certain this is P. spiritus-sancti but would like to ask if any of you sent this? I'd like to use the photo on my site with credit to the owner but need to know who took it! Thanks! Steve www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l Nie znaleziono wirusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.409 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.14.0/2406 - Data wydania: 09/30/09 18:56:00 _______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l Nie znaleziono wirusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.421 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.14.7/2422 - Data wydania: 10/08/09 06:39:00 ------=_NextPart_001_00A6_01CA4868.7AF621F0--------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01CA4868.7AF5FAE0

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2009.10.09 at 13:06:47(20171) You're right Marek. Since then I'vereceived some photos of the inflorescence of P. spiritus-sanctiand they are somewhat similar so I think I've got that one solved eventhough I still don't know who took or sent the original photo in myfiles. Steve HTML +More Marek Argent wrote: Dear Steve and Tom (and aroidphotographers), We misunderstood each other. Steveposted a photo of Ph. spiritus-sancti asking who took this photo. I replied to this post sendingphotos of Ph. campii because I would like topublish them and I also don't know who took these photos I got fromsomeone. I attach again these photos of Ph. campii,maybe I'll get the answer from the photographer. Best, Marek --------------040905050209070107010607

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