Typhoniums, scented and hardy

From: Steve Marak samarak at arachne.uark.edu> on 2000.08.04 at 03:25:21(5227) Re the scent of Typhonium violifolium, I can't comment directly, as mine haven't yet shown growth. I can add to the stories of how variable human noses are at detecting various scents, however. I can detect scents such as Dracunculus and the typical Amorph at much greater range than my wife, while there are some azaleas that have a wonderful fragrance to both of us and others that only she can smell. You'll notice that it's my luck to have greater sensitivity to the unpleasant odors, with the notable exception of Plectranthus, which has no aroma to most people I've asked, but is quite pleasant and distinctive to my mother and me. As to hardiness of Typhoniums, I will add horsfieldii to my want list immediately. What about T. diversifolium and T. alpinum? I'm looking at a line in Deni's book (first edition, of course) referencing locations in the Himalayas between 2500 and 4300 meters for the former, and 4000 meters for the latter. Comments, anyone, or more precise location data? (Wilbert, please don't tell me you've killed off these species somehow! I'm still mourning the impending death of Sauromatum!) Of course, if anyone should have sources of these species, or in the interest of scientific observation care to send me samples to trial here in NW Arkansas, I would be most grateful. Steve +More -- Steve Marak -- samarak@arachne.uark.edu

From: Betsytrips at aol.com on 2000.08.04 at 04:51:13(5229) In a message dated 8/3/00 10:25:42 PM Central Daylight Time, samarak@arachne.uark.edu writes: << with the notable +More exception of Plectranthus, which has no aroma to most people I've asked, but is quite pleasant and distinctive to my mother and me. >> Fascinating because the many and myriad varieties of this genus, have a very pungent aroma to me. Some are very strong and herbal and others less distinct and more pleasant. This scent thing is becoming fascinating. Betsy

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" hetter at worldonline.nl> on 2000.08.04 at 15:55:50(5231) Dear Steve, hey, I am NOT killing species, only misleading names. And Typhonium diversifolium and alpinum are here to stay. When the altitude data by Deni are as they are, you may indeed suggest that they are temperate. However, be careful here because there may also be low altitude material of the same species, and those may not be that hardy. T. horsfieldii is a case in pint, being found also at near sea-level in other parts of its geographic range. We may want to have a bit of input here from Peter Boyce (he's in the USA right now, so maybe later) who has cultivated several of my Typhonium clones on his window sill. Then there is Typhonium brevipes (once Sauromatum), whihc is a Himalayan thing and the recently described Sauromatum gaologongense (recombined in Typhonium by Peter and me in the next Aroidena), which is also a submontane thing. Point is: how do we GET them............? Wilbert +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Sent: vrijdag 4 augustus 2000 5:25 Subject: Typhoniums, scented and hardy > Re the scent of Typhonium violifolium, I can't comment directly, as mine > haven't yet shown growth. I can add to the stories of how variable human > noses are at detecting various scents, however. I can detect scents such > as Dracunculus and the typical Amorph at much greater range than my wife, > while there are some azaleas that have a wonderful fragrance to both of us > and others that only she can smell. You'll notice that it's my luck to > have greater sensitivity to the unpleasant odors, with the notable > exception of Plectranthus, which has no aroma to most people I've asked, > but is quite pleasant and distinctive to my mother and me. > > As to hardiness of Typhoniums, I will add horsfieldii to my want list > immediately. > > What about T. diversifolium and T. alpinum? I'm looking at a line in > Deni's book (first edition, of course) referencing locations in the > Himalayas between 2500 and 4300 meters for the former, and 4000 meters for > the latter. Comments, anyone, or more precise location data? (Wilbert, > please don't tell me you've killed off these species somehow! I'm still > mourning the impending death of Sauromatum!) > > Of course, if anyone should have sources of these species, or in the > interest of scientific observation care to send me samples to trial here > in NW Arkansas, I would be most grateful. > > Steve > > -- Steve Marak > -- samarak@arachne.uark.edu > > > >

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