Arum

From: "Bonaventure W Magrys" magrysbo at shu.edu> on 1999.11.15 at 16:19:05(3836) Brian, Do you grow your Arum creticum and concinatum outdoors? Bonaventure

From: "James W. Waddick" jwaddick at kc.rr.com> on 2001.07.12 at 15:34:02(7022) Dear all; A little mentioned genus on this forum is Arum. In the last few years I have grown increasingly fond of the species and have been slowly expanding my collection. A few recent additions have invigorated me to drop this note. The literature suggests that most of the species are somewhat tender, but I have had success with Arum italicum and maculatum (who hasn't?) but also A. dioscoridis, A elongatum, A. nigrum and more recently with a few others. I also grow a couple more tender species in a cold green house- A. concinnatum, A purpureospathum etc. Dr. Peter Boyce has produced an excellent starting point for discussions here with his book 'The Genus Arum'. Thanks again, Pete. I'd like to hear of others with hardiness experience and a willingness to trade. I currently have a few extra tubers of A concinnatum (small), A byzantinum (few) and one or two others. I'd like to get other potentially hardy species (such as A. alpinum, creticum, korolkowii etc.) or selected forms of any of those mentioned earlier, such as A. maculatum 'Painted Lady', etc. These are mostly just going dormant and making seed heads now. A good time to dig, divide, trade etc. Anyone have 2 cents to add for this Arumophile? Thanks Jim W. Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA +More Ph. 816-746-1949 E-fax 419-781-8594 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +

From: "George R Stilwell, Jr." grsjr at juno.com> on 2001.07.12 at 18:37:20(7025) Jim, You might try your quest for Arum on Arisaema-L. Berndt Peters has the most extensive Arum collection I know of and he's usually interested in trading. +More Ray GRSJr@Juno.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

From: "Alan Galloway" alan_galloway at bellsouth.net> on 2001.07.12 at 19:08:47(7026) I'd like to hear of others with hardiness experience and a willingness to trade.Anyone have 2 cents to add for this Arumophile? -- Jim, I agree! Arums certainly aren't getting the attention they deserve! I've been growing several species here in Raleigh, NC, USA (USDA Zone 7) with very good success. From late Fall to early Spring, they are the only cold hardy aroids, other than the infamous skunk cabbages, that can remind aroid-fanatics of how great this plant family is. My web site, http://www4.ncsu.edu/~alan/plants/aroids/arums/ lists all the species +More that I'm growing out in the garden. Cold-hardiness is one of the relative terms that means ever so slightly different things to people. I consider all the species that I grow to be cold-hardy, but some do suffer leaf damage rather badly from the extreme cold temps that we do get from time to time, specifically, A. concinnatum. But it still delivers some outstanding flowers. Alan ------------------------------------Alan GallowayRaleigh, North Carolina------------------------------------

From: Ellen Hornig hornig at Oswego.EDU> on 2001.07.13 at 19:50:54(7034) Like Jim Waddick, I'm a great fan of arums, though it must be admitted that their inflorescences are, to put it nicely, short-lived. On the other hand, their smell is not, to me, nearly as bad as some writers imply - but then, I do have allergies. I can't add anything useful on hardiness, but I do want to mention that I was thrilled with the inflorescence on Arum orientale ssp. sintenisii, whcih finally bloomed this year (Berndt Peters generously shared it with me many years ago, and it has multiplied like crazy ever since, but never reached blooming size). It is every bit as pretty as it looks in Peter Boyce's book: elegant satiny maroon-crimson spathes held above the foliage, and it really does smell good. I am puzzled, however, to see that A. orientale ssp. sintenisii, on casual inspection, has much more in common with A. elongatum (also a satiny red-maroon, but with a white "flare" up the middle) than it does with A. orientale ssp. orientale, where the spathe is more "boat-shaped" (broad and open) and purplish. The foliage of the first two is fairly similar, though A. elongatum holds its flowers lower in its leaves (among them) - as does A. orientale subsp. orientale. I know all three are pretty closely related, and I believe the IDs are correct. Thoughts from my betters? Ellen +More ******************************************************************* Ellen Hornig Seneca Hill Perennials 3712 County Route 57 Oswego, New York 13126 USA USDA zone 5B (mintemps -10 to -20F) Phone:(315) 342-5915 Fax: (315) 342-5573 Website: www.senecahill.com

From: "Agoston Janos" <agoston.janos at citromail.hu> on 2007.05.04 at 09:37:14(15627) Yes, but how can a tetraploid plant set seeds?! If meiosis occures the chromosomes cannot be "halved" correctly by pulling threads, so I think it could not bear living pollen or oocytes, but my plants sets seeds yearly. +More Is this means that there are also diploids?! |:-/ Or Mr. zonneveld got only tetraploids... ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Avent To: Aroid - L group Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] [Fwd: [pbs] Arum] Dear Arum Growers:I thought I would copy this post from the Pacific Bulb list about arum...very interesting.-------- Original Message --------Subject: [pbs] ArumDate: Thu, 3 May 2007 13:15:05 +0200From: B.J.M. Zonneveld Reply-To: Pacific Bulb Society To: I am a bit late to react on the Arum subject However you will forgive meknowing I was looking for tulips in Kazachstan etc. All Arum italicum,about 10 clones, I have measured the amount of nuclear DNA from are sofar, ranging from Greece via Italy and France to Portugal and theCanarian islands are hexaploid. Arum concineum is diploid and Arummaculatum tetraploid as far as I measured them. Peculiar is that twoarums from greece, one with whitish veins, the other more spotted butwith dark purple stems and flowers flowered fro me in April This seemsvery early for A italicum I wondering if they might do so the next year.I am still looking for a fresh leaf ( or seeds) of the more rarespecies to measure..._______________________________________________pbs mailing listpbs@lists.ibiblio.orghttp://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/pbs-- Tony AventPlant Delights Nursery @Juniper Level Botanic Garden9241 Sauls RoadRaleigh, North Carolina 27603 USAMinimum Winter Temps 0-5 FMaximum Summer Temps 95-105FUSDA Hardiness Zone 7bemail tony@plantdelights.comwebsite http://www.plantdelights.comphone 919 772-4794fax 919 772-4752"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent_______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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