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From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1998.09.13 at 15:47:05(2592)
Dear Friends,
I thought I`d start a discussion here on the genus Taccarum, another of the
seemingly little known South American Aroids that we read so little about,
but which turns up from time to time in collections. The GOA tells us
there are 5 species, from tropical and sub-tropical S. America, from N.
Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Paraguay, and Peru.
I was given a tuber of what I think is T.weddellianum last fall, and I must
"wax poetic" for a moment on the beauty of this plants tuber! The friend
who gave it to me, and who has grown it very successfully over a period of
years, told me that every year this particular plant produced an increasing
larger and impressive tuber, and he thought that he would have a world
record-sized tuber last fall when he dug it up as it went into dormancy.
When he dug "it" up, he found (to his great disappointment, I may add!) that
the large tuber had divided exactly into two smaller tubers. The
interesting thing (to me) was that the two new tubers ( each about 5' wide,
one pound in weight, and half-moon in shape, with one side flat) gave the
impression that the original larger tuber had been cleft exactly in half by
a knife, and the sides where they touched were flat against each other.
One of these two tubers, which he kindly gave to me, was a beautiful deep,
dark almost translucent green, with brownish overtones, and was waxy in
texture, a truly beautiful structure of the plant world. Since they were
said to like it dry during their dormant period, I placed this wonderful and
beautiful, yes beautiful, tuber in a paper beg in my garage, and could not
resist taking it out to be admired by my wife and occasional visitors during
the "winter" months of its dormancy. To my surprise, I noticed that it
was slowly changing shape over the duration of its rest period in the paper
bag, the flat side becoming rounder, until when I planted it in April or
thereabouts, after the spike on top had started its development, the tuber
was completely spherical, with no sign of its previously flattened side!
It quickly put up a beautiful leaf and a bloom, with a papery spathe which
quickly withered, leaving the tall and impressive spadix exposed. The
thick, 30" tall petiole is a wonderfully dark, mottled green, and waxy
looking. The leaf reminds one of an Amorphophallus or a species of Tacca.
I`d love to hear from anyone as to their experiences with this wonderful
example of the aroid family, especially from anyone who may have other
species of this genus.
Cheers,
Julius
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From: Wilbert Hetterscheid <hetter at vkc.nl> on 1998.09.14 at 14:54:08(2598)
Taccarophiles,
Since Eduardo wants to hear from taccarophiles, well, here's one! Of
course this is because T. weddellianum has an Amorphophallus-like
leaf...(sort of). I have two different clones of T. weddellianum, one
consistently considerably larger than the other. The large one produces
one or two inflors at the same time every year and the spadix grows up
to a meter or slightly more. This year and last year we fertilised it
and successfully grew enormous infructescences. This year we have a
ripening one again and all of you who want seeds, please email me
privately (hetter@vkc.nl).I can probably distribute them along with this
year's phalloid-sales, later.
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The tubers of my clones do occasionally produce offsets though never
many.
I am also the proud owner of T. cardenasianum, which Eduardo is looking
for, but I am already discussing this with him (we have some rare Andean
refuge areas here in Holland................)..
In general the whole alliance of Spathicarpeae is fantastic. Gorgonidium
is also a prize to have. I have already distributed some spare material
of G. vermicidum a while ago. I hope it is growing everywhere I sent it.
I do have two other Gorgonidium species but they have not yet flowered.
Less impressive but interesting to have is Asterostigma, also
Spathicarpeae alliance. The inflors are not too impressive though. I
have A. peruvianum growing.
Spathantheum is nice too. I have S. intermedium and S. orbignyanum but
the last one is a bitch to grow. Anyone having any advice on growing S.
orbignyanum?
I am now awaiting an offset tuber of Synandrospadix of Steve Marak's
clone. Mine doesn't offset.
As you all can see, there's enough tuberous fun to be had with
Spathicarpeae!
Cheers all,
Wilbert
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From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1998.09.21 at 01:34:19(2615)
Hello again, my Friends,
I am going to do an "update" to the note below. The writing of the note
(below) made me go out to admire my plant, and I found that the leaf had
started to wither, a sign that it was going dormant. I brought the pot into
my garage to dry out, and called my friend to report the impending dormancy.
He said that his plants were still "up", and this alerted me to possible
problems with the tuber, so I went out and turned the tuber out of the pot,
rinsed the soil off to examine it, and it is a good thing that I did so, as
I discovered several small areas of rot on the otherwise healthy tuber, one
of which was near the base of where the leaf had been, and this had affected
the leaf, causing a prematume/false early dormancy. This may have been
caused by the long period of unseasonably dry weather, followed by very wet
weather (storm Hermine in the gulf of Mexico). The tuber was about 5" in
dia., wrinkled on the bottom (perhaps as it was not fully mature as yet) and
a nice flesh pink, not jade green as it will turn after a while in a paper
bag left on a shelf in my garage. The remains of the old tuber were
adhering to its bottom, and were moist, like old thick wet paper, but peeled
off easily, exposing several small areas of rot. Using the point of a dull
knife, I dug/scraped out all of the areas of rot (about 5, which were brown
and cracked at the surface) down to healthy tissue, and treated the wounds
with "Captan", a fungicide. I will put it into a paper bag with a dusting
of "Ban Rot" once it has dried off a bit.
An interesting note is that while digging out the rotten areas, a tiny piece
of the very moist plant tissue flew up and into my left eye, and there was
immeadiate discomfort, and even though I washed the eye out throughly and
applied drops, it itched like hell for about 1/2 hour, and still does not
feel "right". So here is another Aroid that itches.
I will keep us informed as to the tubers progress during the comming months.
There were no small offset tubers produced, but many growing points are
around the upper surface of the tuber, and the largest has formed a "bulge"
out at one side. Seeing how this species' tuber develops and changes during
its dormancy, (see below) I would not be surprised if this "bulge"
eventually detaches itself from the main tuber by next spring. I am also
informed that you can cut the tubers into pieces, and they will heal, and a
new plant will grow from each piece. I am not ready this point to try this
with my one tuber!
I believe that this species requires a very well drained mix, and to be
gradually dried off in fall. It seems to be VERY sensitive to excessive
moisture at maturity, and will rot easily., and needs to be kept out of its
pot, dry and warm, during dormancy.
To all growers out there, I`d love to aquire other species of this genus,
and any others in this group, such as Gorgonidium, Asterostigma, Mangonia,
etc. I have two species (?) of Spathicarpa, sagittifolia and hastifolia,
and they did VERY well this summer, and are now starting to go dormant. In
previous years thay seemed to be "mixed up" as to the seasons, and would
grow in winter, then want to go dormant in spring. They seem to have
finally got it right!
Cheers,
Julius
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>>Dear Friends,
I thought I`d start a discussion here on the genus Taccarum, another of the
seemingly little known South American Aroids that we read so little about,
but which turns up from time to time in collections. The GOA tells us
there are 5 species, from tropical and sub-tropical S. America, from N.
Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Paraguay, and Peru.
I was given a tuber of what I think is T.weddellianum last fall, and I must
"wax poetic" for a moment on the beauty of this plants tuber! The friend
who gave it to me, and who has grown it very successfully over a period of
years, told me that every year this particular plant produced an increasing
larger and impressive tuber, and he thought that he would have a world
record-sized tuber last fall when he dug it up as it went into dormancy.
When he dug "it" up, he found (to his great disappointment, I may add!) that
the large tuber had divided exactly into two smaller tubers. The
interesting thing (to me) was that the two new tubers ( each about 5' wide,
one pound in weight, and half-moon in shape, with one side flat) gave the
impression that the original larger tuber had been cleft exactly in half by
a knife, and the sides where they touched were flat against each other.
One of these two tubers, which he kindly gave to me, was a beautiful deep,
dark almost translucent green, with brownish overtones, and was waxy in
texture, a truly beautiful structure of the plant world. Since they were
said to like it dry during their dormant period, I placed this wonderful and
beautiful, yes beautiful, tuber in a paper beg in my garage, and could not
resist taking it out to be admired by my wife and occasional visitors during
the "winter" months of its dormancy. To my surprise, I noticed that it
was slowly changing shape over the duration of its rest period in the paper
bag, the flat side becoming rounder, until when I planted it in April or
thereabouts, after the spike on top had started its development, the tuber
was completely spherical, with no sign of its previously flattened side!
It quickly put up a beautiful leaf and a bloom, with a papery spathe which
quickly withered, leaving the tall and impressive spadix exposed. The
thick, 30" tall petiole is a wonderfully dark, mottled green, and waxy
looking. The leaf reminds one of an Amorphophallus or a species of Tacca.
I`d love to hear from anyone as to their experiences with this wonderful
example of the aroid family, especially from anyone who may have other
species of this genus.
Cheers,
Julius
ju-bo@msn.com<<
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From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 1998.09.21 at 01:42:24(2616)
>>Taccarophiles,
Since Eduardo wants to hear from taccarophiles, well, here's one! Of
course this is because T. weddellianum has an Amorphophallus-like
leaf...(sort of). I have two different clones of T. weddellianum, one
consistently considerably larger than the other. The large one produces
one or two inflors at the same time every year and the spadix grows up
to a meter or slightly more. This year and last year we fertilised it
and successfully grew enormous infructescences. This year we have a
ripening one again and all of you who want seeds, please email me
privately (hetter@vkc.nl).I can probably distribute them along with this
year's phalloid-sales, later.
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The tubers of my clones do occasionally produce offsets though never
many.
I am also the proud owner of T. cardenasianum, which Eduardo is looking
for, but I am already discussing this with him (we have some rare Andean
refuge areas here in Holland................)..
In general the whole alliance of Spathicarpeae is fantastic. Gorgonidium
is also a prize to have. I have already distributed some spare material
of G. vermicidum a while ago. I hope it is growing everywhere I sent it.
I do have two other Gorgonidium species but they have not yet flowered.
Less impressive but interesting to have is Asterostigma, also
Spathicarpeae alliance. The inflors are not too impressive though. I
have A. peruvianum growing.
Spathantheum is nice too. I have S. intermedium and S. orbignyanum but
the last one is a bitch to grow. Anyone having any advice on growing S.
orbignyanum?
I am now awaiting an offset tuber of Synandrospadix of Steve Marak's
clone. Mine doesn't offset.
As you all can see, there's enough tuberous fun to be had with
Spathicarpeae!
Cheers all,
Wilbert<<
Dear Wilbert, I am using the list to inform you that I tried sending a note
to your private address (above) and it was sent back to me by the post
master. I have sent it again, and we shall see if it goes through this
time.
Julius
ju-bo@msn.com
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From: ALLAN TETZLAFF <atetzlaff at rogers.com> on 2008.10.11 at 11:39:39(18625)
I have a couple small bulbs of T. caudatum. I grew these from seed and they have now had two cycles of growth. Should I continue to leave them in the soil between growth periods or store them dry? Any guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Allan
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From: "bobbymcgehe" <bobbymcgehe at bellsouth.net> on 2008.10.11 at 22:16:33(18629)
Hello Allen,
I have many T. caudatum tubers the size of small dinner plates and smaller. I store them inside over the winter season, out of soil. In South Florida I could probably leave them outside but these are my prized Aroids and just do not want to take a chance.
Bobby McGehe
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From: ALLAN TETZLAFF
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Subject: [Aroid-l] Taccarum
I have a couple small bulbs of T. caudatum. I grew these from seed and they have now had two cycles of growth. Should I continue to leave them in the soil between growth periods or store them dry? Any guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Allan
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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2008.10.11 at 22:46:17(18630)
Hello,
I store my Taccarum weddellianum dry in room temperature.
Marek
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From: ALLAN TETZLAFF
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 1:39 PM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Taccarum
I have a couple small bulbs of T. caudatum. I grew these from seed and they have now had two cycles of growth. Should I continue to leave them in the soil between growth periods or store them dry? Any guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Allan
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From: RAYMOMATTLA at cs.com on 2008.10.12 at 02:14:25(18632)
Mine are left in soil in a pot on a dry bench in the greenhouse and come back every year in the spring.
I'm growing Taccarum weddellianum if that makes any difference...which it might.
Thanks,
Michael Mattlage
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