From: kenneth wall <nnoice at msn.com>
on 2019.11.03 at 01:02:45
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Welcome Rosalind
Sounds like you really need Dr.Browns book 'The Amazing Aglaonema' , it used to be available thru Valkeria gardens though I don't see it there or anywhere for that matter.
The Red colors certainly come from A.Rotundum native to Sumatra ,I'm not sure which species or hybrid contributes the pink petioles.
Actually your apartment can be great for many Aglaonemas , take a look at the varieties listed at http://www.morningdewtropical.com many of these grow well indoors . I've always had good luck growing
them under flourescent cool spectrum lights inside . I grew a fantastic notoriously difficult Pictum tri- color this way and only killed it when I tried to grow in my greenhouse -go figure.
From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com <aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com> on behalf of Rosalind Gold <rozgold@pacbell.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 4:36 PM
To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com>
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aglaonema with yellow flowers
Dear Kenneth, Russ and Jude:
I'm a bit of a lurker on this list, because I'm somewhat of a novice aroid grower. However, I love aglaonemas, and I'm delighted to see you all talking about them, because I really want to learn more about them. I have about 15 hybrids and
one species, but I don't know anything about the history of their hybridizing - I think there was a mention of cultivars between 1950 and 1980 - and I'd also like to learn about the hybridizing or other efforts that led to the introduction of the pink and
red-leafed variegated hybrids that I remember were once considered extremely rare.
I grow in a Los Angeles apartment, so it's not perfect for many aglaonemas - but it's still seems to work just fine for the ones I have.
I've seen that Frank Brown wrote a book in 2000 about aglaonemas - but it appears to be out of print. I'm wondering if you've seen any other publications that talk about the history of the horticulture of aglaonemas. I'm less interested in
botanical articles about trips to find aglaonemas in the wild.
Thanks so much in advance --
-Rosalind, in Los Angeles
On Thursday, October 31, 2019, 10:27:01 AM PDT, kenneth wall <nnoice@msn.com> wrote:
Russ,
That Cassandra sport is very nice find indeed ! How bout that Moonglow , never heard of it , does it hold many leaves , how tall does it get? I'm looking for Alumina and that Alumina Armandii clone myself . I did see some of those very large auroras at a Walmart
this year too bad they were in such rough shape .
From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com <aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com> on behalf of Russ <bluesea14808@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:46 PM
To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com>
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aglaonema with yellow flowers
Kenneth, there were 6 pots of the pink-colored Siam Aurora with multiple plants, the spot of red coloring was on one leaf of a single plant. So this pink one is being tissue cultured and marketed, just not to the scale of Siam Aurora. It appears
to be a stable cultivar.
I've seen Siam Aurora at Home Depot in pots around 3 gallon size that were VERY tall and bushy, at least 2 feet. I was stunned at the height when I saw them.
I've attached 3 ag pics below, first two are of heirloom Moonglow, perhaps my favorite aglaonema. 3rd is of a sport of mine from A. Cassandra. I have a very large collection, always looking for one more but especially species and heirloom hybrids
from the 50s thru the 80s.
Russ
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019, 09:39:18 PM EDT, kenneth wall <nnoice@msn.com> wrote:
Russ
Thats funny Russ , I just passed by a bunch of Siam Aurora and spotted one beauty out of 30 or so that had some nice red pups coming up and couldn't resist . There are bound to be some nice varients showing up when something is chopped up enough in tissue culture
,hope your Pink selection will hold up and turn out nice !
From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com <aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com> on behalf of Russ <bluesea14808@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:57 AM
To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com>
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aglaonema with yellow flowers
Kenneth, I agree that it's very similar. Pride of Sumatra is one of the early rotundum hybrids, I never owned one but recall it from many, many years ago.
I recently acquired so-called Chocolate and have no comparison other than pictures. Googling images, there are some that look identical, others have more green in the leaves which is the one I remember. Some ags are variable within groups of
the same named cultivar, Pride of Sumatra is obviously one of them.
So you could be absolutely right and I wouldn't be surprised if Chocolate is just a renaming of Pride of Sumatra. Look at the hugely popular Siam Aurora, also called Red Aglaonema, Crete, Creta, Red Sumatra, etc, etc.
While some ag cultivars are variable, I'm astounded by the stability of Siam Aurora. I see entire display tables full of them at BB stores and they're always the same. I did come across an unnamed ag this summer that is obviously a sport of Siam
Aurora where the reds were replaced with pink. A single plant among 6 gave it's identity away by having a quarter-size patch of Siam Aurora coloration on a leaf. This pink one is a bit feminine for my taste but quite pretty.
Below is another unnamed one I found recently.
Russ
On Wednesday, October 30, 2019, 09:59:25 AM EDT, kenneth wall <nnoice@msn.com> wrote:
This looks like the cultivar called 'Pride of sumatra' a rotundum hybrid
From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com <aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com> on behalf of Russ <bluesea14808@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 2:57 PM
To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com>
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aglaonema with yellow flowers
Here are pics. I backed inflorescence with white paper for comparison, it's definitely a yellowish color.
Russ
On Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 10:28:40 AM EDT, The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds good, Russ!
I have a couple of decent size plants of Chocolate, I'll check for flowers tomorrow. Pretty sure they flowered before but didn't notice the color.
Russ
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:23 PM, The Silent Seed
Hi guys,
Sorry for the delayed response - I finally got a picture of the Aglaonema 'Chocolate' flower. The yellow doesn't come through very well on the camera with the lighting, but they are more of a creamy yellow than white.
That is worth noting. I just did a Google image search for Aglaonema Chocolate, and none of the pictures had flowers. Which means that I don't know if yellow is typical of this cultivar or not. It might be worth investigating the nature of the pigment in the
leaves that creates the chocolate color: in plants, proanthocyanidin creates the brown, beige, or tan colors; whereas yellow is either carotenoid or a flavonoid. Are these flowers a clear yellow, or is it more of a brownish yellow? The latter would suggest
that the leaf pigment is also in the flowers; the former would suggest a different explanation.
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