Re: [Aroid-l] Aroid Plantmen

From: DAVID LEEDY <djleedy at sbcglobal.net> on 2014.08.29 at 03:11:26 Dear Susan, Her name is Betsy Feurstein and both trips I took to Ecuador were under her auspices.  Betsy was always=0Aconcerned with our interaction with the locals. My first trip was to Lita, an area rich in Aroids.  Next to the place we were staying was Mary=E2=80=99s=0Acantina, where we would go for a beer after a day of collecting.  One night the Federal Police came in and were=0Apassing around a bottle of their own version of moonshine.   They=0Aoffered me a swig, but being no fool I pursed my lips together and pretended to=0Adrink with them.  That went on for many=0Ahours and I was afraid to leave, so I stayed with them.   We usually left around 5 or 6 AM to go plant collecting.  When the Federal Policemen got up, around=0A10:00 AM with hangovers, they inquired as to my whereabouts.  When they were informed that I had left with=0Amy group around 5 or 6 AM, they named me Dos Galones.  Evidently they thought I had drunk a lot more=0Athan I did. =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A   David Leedy On Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:00 PM, Genevi=C3=A8ve Ferry <jpcferry2@wanadoo.fr> wrote: =0A =0A =0A =0A Dear Susan  and  dear =0AAroiders, =0A   =0A I am =0Avery moved to find my name =0Ain your list and I thank you sincerely. =0A  I hope to continue my =0Awork for a long time and =0Aalso my help from =0ADr. Croat. =0A Best regards, =0A Genevi=C3=A8ve Ferry =0A =0A =0A =0A   =0A =0A From: Susan B =0A Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:56 PM =0A To: Discussion of aroids =0A Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroid Plantmen =0A   =0A =0A =0A Very good, David, =0A Plantwomen, =0Atoo.  And all the folks that got the IAS off the ground.  Tricia =0AFrank.  Genevieve Ferry, Lariann Garner, Mary Sizemore, Betsy in Memphis (I =0Aam blanking on her last name).  The list goes on and on. =0A   =0A =0A =0A =0A =0AFrom: =0ADAVID LEEDY <djleedy@sbcglobal.net> To: Discussion of aroids =0A<aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 2:24 =0APM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroid =0APlantmen =0A =0A   =0A =0A =0A =0A Derek et al, =0A =0A On =0Amy only trip to the annual show and sale, I was invited to tour Bob See's =0Aplace. =0A =0A John =0ABanta is a good source not only for other Plantmen, but for himself.  His =0Aplace is amazing (or at least was) and I don't know how many hybrids he is =0Aresponsible for, but many.  I remember one trip Dewey Fisk and I took to =0ANorthern Florida to visit some people named Worthman, I think.  Although =0ADewey told me the were bromeliad people, he thought they might have some =0Avariegated Philodendron 'Florida'.  Instead they had several dozen pots of =0AAnthurium dresslerii, which was really uncommon at that time.  I believe it =0Awas discovered that this was not really A. dresslerii after Rick Cirino brought =0Athe plant back from Columbia.  Anyway, John crossed it with many of the =0Avelour Anthuriums (A. forgetii, A. chrystalinum, etc.). =0A =0A Another =0Avery good Plantsman, in addition to being a Botanist, was Monroe Birdsey.  =0AI had the opportunity to visit his place with Dewey Fisk on one of my =0Atrips.  Joe Wright was another good Florida Plantsman, but on the west =0Acoast.  Surely some Floridians can elaborate on Monroe and =0AJoe. =0A =0A Other =0ABotanists, who are Plantsmen are Tom Croat and, I understand Wilbert =0AHetterscheid.  Also, from the experiences he relates, I think Peter Boyce =0Amight also qualify as a good Plantman.  I have visited the Munich Botanical =0AGardens, where Josef Bogner was my host.  Now there is another =0APlantman/Botanist. =0A =0A Of =0Acourse if you could get Dewey to share some of his stories, you would have =0Aanother really good source. =0A   =0A I =0Asure hope others, with more knowledge will contribute to this thread. =0A =0A David =0ALeedy =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 3:59 AM, derek =0Aburch <dburch23@bellsouth.net> wrote: =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A I will see if I can =0Astir up John Banta about Bob See. John is a fantastic source of information, and =0Awe may be able to put together something for the e-supplement to Aroideana which =0Ais due out in December. Or even a longer piece from many contributors which I =0Ashould be happy to collate and edit for next years Aroideana (deadline December =0A15, 2014 before you all get busy for the holidays) Thanks to every one who is =0Apoking the fire to get this topic on the move.  Derek =0A   =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A From: =0Aaroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] =0AOn Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Monday, August =0A25, 2014 8:59 PM To: =0A'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroid =0APlantmen =0A =0A   =0A Hi David, =0A   =0A Bob and Catherine Wilson did =0Acreate a wonderful botanical garden in Las Cruces , Costa Rica . I understand it =0Awas off the beaten track and very difficult to get there. I was hearing about it =0Ain the 60s. =0A   =0A Yes I do believe that Anderson =E2=80=99s =0ANursery is in Carlsbad . =0A   =0A Did anyone know Bob See of =0AFlorida and of the aroids he created? =0A   =0A John Criswick =0A Grenada. =0A   =0A =0A =0A From: =0Aaroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] =0AOn Behalf Of DAVID LEEDY Sent: Monday, August =0A25, 2014 11:27 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] =0AAroid Plantmen =0A   =0A =0A =0A =0A Thank you =0ADerek, =0A =0A   =0A =0A The Newsletter =0Ais exactly where I was trying to direct that kind of =0Ainformation. =0A =0A   =0A =0A Over 35 years =0Aago, I propagated Aroids for Bob Cole and Bill Cook's Botanical Gardens Plant =0AShop in Reseda, California .  I recall that they mentioned Ed Hummel, but =0Athey always referred to him as "Mr. Hummel."  Like so many, I can't =0Aremember what I knew about him. =0A =0A   =0A =0A I was of the =0Aopinion that Anderson 's red was from Anderson 's Nursery in the San Diego area, =0Apossibly Carlsbad .  I do recall visiting that nursery around 40 years ago =0Aand meeting his son, I believe his name was Rod.  It is quite possible that =0AMr. Hummel named it. =0A =0A   =0A =0A I am of the =0Aopinion that one of the Bobs, Wilson or McColley, went to Costa Rica and built a =0Arare plant nursery or area there. =0A =0A   =0A =0A David =0ALeedy =0A =0A   =0A =0A   =0A =0A   =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A On Monday, August 25, =0A2014 5:28 AM, derek burch <dburch23@bellsouth.net> =0Awrote: =0A   =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A David, =0A =0A   =0A =0A The articles that Enid =0Aand I did for the June Newsletter were attempts to stimulate more on this type =0Areminiscence (perhaps of  a more serious nature than mine) =E2=80=93but, rather as =0Aexpected, there has been no follow up. The medium for publishing in an archived =0Aform Newsletter and Aroideana) does exist. Now we need more people to join in =0Awith submissions. =0A =0A   =0A =0A Best, =0ADerek =0A =0A   =0A =0A p.s. Fantastic Gardens =0Awas Bob Wilson, not Bob McColley, who was active in the Apopka area at Bamboo =0ANursery, and introduced a number of philodendrons, including such gems as Prince =0Aof Orange =E2=80=99. After his death, his wife Cora continued his work if my memory is =0Acorrect. Glasshouse Works attributes Anderson =E2=80=99s Red to Ed =0AHummel. =0A =0A   =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A From: =0Aaroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] =0AOn Behalf Of DAVID LEEDY Sent: Friday, August =0A15, 2014 7:33 PM To: =0AAroid-L List Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroid =0APlantmen =0A =0A =0A   =0A =0A =0A =0A I appreciated the =0Ainformation given to us on this list by A. Sunjian with respect to =0APhilodendron  =E2=80=98xEvansii=E2=80=99 and Philodendron =E2=80=98 Soledad =E2=80=99.  However,  =0AI want to know more about the =E2=80=9CPlantsmen=E2=80=9D in the Aroid Plant Family.  We =0Acan read about the old timey Botanist (e.g. Schott and Engler & Kraus), the =0ABotanists of our life time (e.g. Cecil Prime and Monroe Birdsey), and the =0Acurrent Botanists.  But how about the Plansmen? =0A =0A =0A   =0A =0A =0A What is the story =0Aof Anderson =E2=80=99s Red (Philodendron) and of particular interest would be Bob =0AMcCauley of Fantastic Gardens fame in Miami ?  What other Plantsmen should =0Awe know about?  How about famous Plantsmen in Australia , the UK , Germany =0A, etc.?  What cultivars or hybrids are they responsible =0Afor? =0A =0A =0A   =0A =0A =0A I, for one, would =0Areally appreciate anyone taking the time to either write this down or tell me =0Awhere I might otherwise find it. =0A =0A =0A   =0A =0A =0A Thank =0Ayou. =0A =0A =0A David =0ALeedy =0A =0A =0A   =0A   =0A =0A =0A =0A=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A This =0A email is free from viruses and malware because avast! =0A Antivirus protection is active. =0A =0A   =0A   =0A =0A _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l =0A   =0A =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A This email is free from viruses and malware =0A because avast! 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