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Re: [Aroid-l] Aroid Plantmen
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From: "derek burch" <dburch23 at bellsouth.net>
on 2014.08.27 at 08:37:44
All of these emails are great and very
welcome. Right, now a question, would you like to see these published as is
(Newsletter, e-aroideana or Aroideana hard copy) or would you like to see them
(and I hope many others) digested and presented as a single article in one of
these sites?
I remain, as always, your humble and
obedient servant, Derek [editor etc}
I can explain this salutation to anyone
who has not encountered the British Civil Service – it was the prescribed end
to any letter sent out to the public, no matter how unpleasant the content
might be. Those were the days.
From:
aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Eduardo Gomes Goncalves
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014
3:36 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroid
Plantmen
Dear fellows,
Don't forget the Brazilian Roberto Burle Marx as one of the most
Important Plantsman ever in the aroid family. He personally collected, crossed
and used many of his discoveries in his gardens in Brazil,
Venezuela
and elsewhere. Although generally known as a landscape designer, he knew his
plants in full depth and even described new species occasionally. Many species
used today (including the famous P. mello-barretoanum - one of the forms sold
as "P. selloum") where firstly brought to cultivation by Roberto's
hands and/or coworkers'. I would also include Harri Lorenzi (another
Brazilian) as a contemporary Plantman. As a writer (and publisher) of books in
popular botany, he was able to sponsor many important field trips, including
those that deciphered the real identity of Philodendron stenolobum, the trip
that found the wild population of Philodendron spiritus-sancti and many
others. He also keep one of the few private botanic garden in Brazil in which
many rare aroid species are cultivated. He has even an aroid genus in his honor
- Lorenzia. Very recently, sponsored a trip that discovered a new aroid genus
in Rio de Janeiro,
which is about to be published.
On 26/08/2014, at 15:24, DAVID LEEDY wrote:
On my only trip to
the annual show and sale, I was invited to tour Bob See's place.
John Banta is a good
source not only for other Plantmen, but for himself. His place is amazing
(or at least was) and I don't know how many hybrids he is responsible for, but
many. I remember one trip Dewey Fisk and I took to Northern
Florida to visit some people named Worthman, I think.
Although Dewey told me the were bromeliad people, he thought they might
have some variegated Philodendron 'Florida'.
Instead they had several dozen pots of Anthurium dresslerii, which was
really uncommon at that time. I believe it was discovered that this was
not really A. dresslerii after Rick Cirino brought the plant back from Columbia. Anyway,
John crossed it with many of the velour Anthuriums (A. forgetii, A.
chrystalinum, etc.).
Another very good
Plantsman, in addition to being a Botanist, was Monroe Birdsey. I had the
opportunity to visit his place with Dewey Fisk on one of my trips. Joe
Wright was another good Florida Plantsman, but on the west coast. Surely
some Floridians can elaborate on Monroe and Joe.
Other Botanists, who
are Plantsmen are Tom Croat and, I understand Wilbert Hetterscheid. Also,
from the experiences he relates, I think Peter Boyce might also qualify as a
good Plantman. I have visited the Munich Botanical Gardens, where Josef
Bogner was my host. Now there is another Plantman/Botanist.
Of course if you
could get Dewey to share some of his stories, you would have another really
good source.
I sure hope others,
with more knowledge will contribute to this thread.
I will see if I can stir
up John Banta about Bob See. John is a fantastic source of information, and we
may be able to put together something for the e-supplement to Aroideana which
is due out in December. Or even a longer piece from many contributors which I
should be happy to collate and edit for next years Aroideana (deadline December
15, 2014 before you all get busy for the holidays) Thanks to every one who is
poking the fire to get this topic on the move. Derek
From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On
Behalf Of John Criswick
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 8:59
PM
To: 'Discussion of aroids'
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroid
Plantmen
Bob
and Catherine Wilson did create a wonderful botanical garden in Las Cruces , Costa Rica . I understand it was
off the beaten track and very difficult to get there. I was hearing about it in
the 60s.
Yes
I do believe that Anderson ’s Nursery is in Carlsbad .
Did
anyone know Bob See of Florida
and of the aroids he created?
From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On
Behalf Of DAVID LEEDY
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014
11:27 AM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroid
Plantmen
The
Newsletter is exactly where I was trying to direct that kind of information=2E
Over
35 years ago, I propagated Aroids for Bob Cole and Bill Cook's Botanical
Gardens Plant Shop in Reseda, California
=2E I recall that they mentioned Ed Hummel, but they always referred to him
as "Mr. Hummel." Like so many, I can't remember what I knew
about him.
I
was of the opinion that Anderson 's red was from
Anderson 's Nursery in the San
Diego area, possibly Carlsbad
=2E I do recall visiting that nursery around 40 years ago and meeting his
son, I believe his name was Rod. It is quite possible that Mr. Hummel named
it.
I
am of the opinion that one of the Bobs, Wilson or McColley, went to Costa Rica and
built a rare plant nursery or area there.
The articles that Enid
and I did for the June Newsletter were attempts to stimulate more on this type
reminiscence (perhaps of a more serious nature than mine) –but, rather as
expected, there has been no follow up. The medium for publishing in an archived
form Newsletter and Aroideana) does exist. Now we need more people to join in
with submissions.
p.s. Fantastic Gardens
was Bob Wilson, not Bob McColley, who was active in the Apopka area at Bamboo
Nursery, and introduced a number of philodendrons, including such gems as
Prince of Orange
’. After his death, his wife Cora continued his work if my memory is correct.
Glasshouse Works attributes Anderson
’s Red to Ed Hummel.
From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On
Behalf Of DAVID LEEDY
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 7:33
PM
To: Aroid-L List
Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroid Plantmen
I
appreciated the information given to us on this list by A. Sunjian with respect
to Philodendron ‘xEvansii’ and Philodendron ‘ Soledad ’. However, I want to
know more about the “Plantsmen” in the Aroid Plant Family. We can read
about the old timey Botanist (e.g. Schott and Engler & Kraus), the
Botanists of our life time (e.g. Cecil Prime and Monroe Birdsey), and the
current Botanists. But how about the Plansmen?
What
is the story of Anderson ’s Red (Philodendron)
and of particular interest would be Bob McCauley of Fantastic
Gardens fame in Miami ? What other Plantsmen should we
know about? How about famous Plantsmen in Australia
, the UK , Germany , etc.?
What cultivars or hybrids are they responsible for?
I,
for one, would really appreciate anyone taking the time to either write this
down or tell me where I might otherwise find it.
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