Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium unknown! - banta

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at ExoticRainforest.com> on 2010.05.13 at 11:54:51 Everyone please keep in mind that the plant in Zach' photo was photographed in the collection of the Missouri Botanical Garden.  Emily can correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding that the plants in the Climatron display come from the garden's own collection and every aroid I have ever seen in that collection has an accession tag on it with detailed info where the plant came from in nature.  It be possible but I would doubt there are any tissue cultured plants on display but again Tom or Emily would need to speak to that issue.  Similar plant forms to those in the photos may be available from Agristarts or other sources but I would be very surprised if the garden uses tissue cultured plants. Several times I have gone in the the MOBOT aroid greenhouse and asked where a specific plant was that I had once photographed (normally large Anthurium species) and been told it is currently on display in the Climatron.  Emily keeps very precise records on all the plants. Last night Julius also provided additional information on the Banta's email response in regard to articles on similar plants that can be found in Aroideana.  Banta's article can be read in Aroideana Vol. 6, No. 1, pg. 26-27 in an article titled What's in a Name.  Dr. Croat has an article in Vol. 6, No. 4, pg. 133 in an article titled The Origin of Anthurium leuconeurum Lem.  I found the features of Anthurium leuconeurum to be similar to the plant in Zach's photo and commented on that to several of you privately. If you don't have these issues you can download the articles from the IAS website www.Aroid.org Steve www.ExoticRainforest.com On 5/12/2010 08:06, John wrote: Hi Marek,             Both 1890 and 1892 are plants out of tissue culture produced by Agristarts in Florida.  The first is sold as A. ‘Crystal Hope’ and the second is sold as A. clarinervium.  Both of these plants have reached their maximum size and will not grow any larger. Both are essentially “dwarf”. Jay Vannini has just provided us with some of his observations on ‘Crystal Hope’.             Although the A. clarinervium in the picture is of a plant produced by tissue culture, it is virtually identical to plants of that species which I have gown before tissue culture was invented, as far as my recollection serves me. These tissue-cultured plants also produce orange berries.                                                                                                                                John.   From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:29 PM To: Steve@ExoticRainforest.com; discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium unknown! - banta   Hello,   Yes, I wanted to make myself sure, because I have almost an identical plant, the leaves of my specimen are more round, but it is a juvenile plant yet.  http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/anthurium/crystallinum.htm   In the meantime John Criswick sent 2 photos to Aroid-L and it caused the chaos. I dare to send them again. I think that 1890 is A. leuconeurum or a young A. magnificum and 1892 is probably a form of A. clarinervium or a hybrid.   Marek   ----- Original Message ----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Marek Argent Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium unknown! - banta   The one in the blue link below that you gave me. Steve On 5/11/2010 03:07, Marek Argent wrote: Hello,   Now everything has messed. What Anthurium are we talking about? This one from the IAS meeting or those John Criswick sent to identify?   Marek   ----- Original Message ----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium unknown! - banta   As per Julius' request yesterday, below is my response from John Banta who is lovingly known to many aroiders as "the Banta".  Banta has been around since the beginning of the IAS and is a wealth of knowledge.  This response is in regard to the discussion on this forum in regard to the plant that appeared to be related to either Anthurium crystallinum or a similar species.  It also strongly appears the mystery plant in Zach's photo has been solved but as the Banta often does, he presents some additional mystery into the discussion.  http://aroid.org/midamerica/201004images/032.jpg   His answer to my original request: On 5/11/2010 09:49, John Banta wrote: Hi Steve, this is like seeing a ghost. I had this plant years ago. It always puzzled me. At the time I was quite interested in the Mexican Anthuriums. especially those with orange berries as they all seemed to hybridize well between each other. I,m not certain where I got the plant originally, but I placed it with the crystallinium and magnificum and forgetti  group, It lacks the strong chordate leaf shape of clarinervium. When I first saw the fruit color (yellow/orange) I realized that this was a great plant for breeding. Never got anything from that plant. The Anthurium pictured should have purple berries, if they are yellow/orange  you have one very special plant.  Good luck, banta My response to Banta: Thanks a bunch John!  The plant was photographed in the Missouri Botanical Garden collection and even though I was there, I never saw it.  Julius was sure you could fill in some info so thanks very much for the input.  I am passing it on to the others who were involved in this discussion.  It is my understanding Tom has identified it as A. crystallinum.           Nie znaleziono virusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.437 / Baza danych wirusów: 271.1.1/2867 - Data wydania: 05/11/10 06:26:00 Nie znaleziono virusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. 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